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Yes please. Let's leave GIF in the 20th Century, where it belongs.

IgorPartola 12y ago
If only iOS (and Android?) allowed you to play inline videos the way you can on the desktop, and the way they play animated GIF's inline. Besides allowing us to adopt video throughout and save on bandwidth and have better video quality, this will be a huge productivity boost to developers: we can finally stop having the GIF vis JIF pronunciation debate.
- dublinben 12y ago
  Firefox on Android plays inline videos just fine. Sites like GFYcat work as expected, and loop appropriately.
  - 1ris 12y ago
    "Works" with the android stock browser, however there the controls stay in the way. Same for Chrome. Does not work with opera mobile.
  - barrkel 12y ago
    Much to my annoyance. I desire to disable all autoplay of all inline videos across all browsers on my phone. Quite difficult to achieve.
    - IgorPartola 12y ago
      I think this should definitely be an option. This is a really personal preference and there is no reason you should suffer through autoplay videos if you don't want to. I would want it on, at least for some sites, like Gyfcat and Imgur because otherwise my phone slows down to a crawl, trying to load and render a GIF.
- acqq 12y ago
  Unless somebody's producing ads, why would he insist on having the video "inline like on the desktop" on the small screen of the mobile phone?
  - jamiesonbecker 12y ago
    live screenshot demos?
  - profmonocle 12y ago
    Because gifs already work that way on phones, and that's how users want it.
    - acqq 12y ago
      I never wanted any movable ads while trying to read something on the phone. Even less the movable the cat gifs. If something is not worth the click, it's certainly not worth to be inline in the text.
  - IgorPartola 12y ago
    To replace GIFs. I don't have a problem with users being able to opt out, etc. But GIF's are still useful, yet a huge drain on resources. If for nothing, I want my cat videos still available inline without having to click them.
    - cardiffspaceman 12y ago
      Hardware video decoders mostly only handle one video at a time and if you could multiplex the one decoder the chip has, to keep up with multiple videos playing at once it just might take a milliwatt or two.
  - derf_ 12y ago
    Yes, what kind of crazy designer would do that: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4531088 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4531088
leeoniya 12y ago
is it possible to have pixel-perfect animations (avoid compression artifacts completely) while using h.264 or VP8 and still get good filesize? also, what about alpha transparency? video formats do not have this. GIF is shitty for video clips, but it's not without uses. it just needs to be replaced by APNG [1]. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APNG http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APNG
- sb057 12y ago
  VP9 has lossless encoding support. http://base-n.de/webm/VP9lossless.html http://base-n.de/webm/VP9lossless.html
  - leeoniya 12y ago
    apparently there's also hints of alpha channel, but basically no support for it outside of chrome's experimental flags: http://updates.html5rocks.com/2013/07/Alpha-transparency-in-Chrome-video http://updates.html5rocks.com/2013/07/Alpha-transparency-in-...
AlwaysBCoding 12y ago
AFAIK the Apple Watch doesn't support video of any sort, so if you want to get moving pictures on your watch the gif is the only way. Gif is about to make a comeback if anything.

If only iOS (and Android?) allowed you to play inline videos the way you can on the desktop, and the way they play animated GIF's inline. Besides allowing us to adopt video throughout and save on bandwidth and have better video quality, this will be a huge productivity boost to developers: we can finally stop having the GIF vis JIF pronunciation debate.

dublinben 12y ago
Firefox on Android plays inline videos just fine. Sites like GFYcat work as expected, and loop appropriately.
- 1ris 12y ago
  "Works" with the android stock browser, however there the controls stay in the way. Same for Chrome. Does not work with opera mobile.
- barrkel 12y ago
  Much to my annoyance. I desire to disable all autoplay of all inline videos across all browsers on my phone. Quite difficult to achieve.
  - IgorPartola 12y ago
    I think this should definitely be an option. This is a really personal preference and there is no reason you should suffer through autoplay videos if you don't want to. I would want it on, at least for some sites, like Gyfcat and Imgur because otherwise my phone slows down to a crawl, trying to load and render a GIF.
acqq 12y ago
Unless somebody's producing ads, why would he insist on having the video "inline like on the desktop" on the small screen of the mobile phone?
- jamiesonbecker 12y ago
  live screenshot demos?
- profmonocle 12y ago
  Because gifs already work that way on phones, and that's how users want it.
  - acqq 12y ago
    I never wanted any movable ads while trying to read something on the phone. Even less the movable the cat gifs. If something is not worth the click, it's certainly not worth to be inline in the text.
- IgorPartola 12y ago
  To replace GIFs. I don't have a problem with users being able to opt out, etc. But GIF's are still useful, yet a huge drain on resources. If for nothing, I want my cat videos still available inline without having to click them.
  - cardiffspaceman 12y ago
    Hardware video decoders mostly only handle one video at a time and if you could multiplex the one decoder the chip has, to keep up with multiple videos playing at once it just might take a milliwatt or two.
- derf_ 12y ago
  Yes, what kind of crazy designer would do that: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4531088 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4531088

leeoniya 12y ago

is it possible to have pixel-perfect animations (avoid compression artifacts completely) while using h.264 or VP8 and still get good filesize? also, what about alpha transparency? video formats do not have this. GIF is shitty for video clips, but it's not without uses. it just needs to be replaced by APNG [1]. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APNG http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APNG

sb057 12y ago
VP9 has lossless encoding support. http://base-n.de/webm/VP9lossless.html http://base-n.de/webm/VP9lossless.html
- leeoniya 12y ago
  apparently there's also hints of alpha channel, but basically no support for it outside of chrome's experimental flags: http://updates.html5rocks.com/2013/07/Alpha-transparency-in-Chrome-video http://updates.html5rocks.com/2013/07/Alpha-transparency-in-...

AlwaysBCoding 12y ago

AFAIK the Apple Watch doesn't support video of any sort, so if you want to get moving pictures on your watch the gif is the only way. Gif is about to make a comeback if anything.