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I'm glad to hear all solutions has been found. Still, last time I checked researchers actually had a lot of influence on the evolution of the Internet. Edit: W

by stse 17y ago

I'm glad to hear all solutions has been found. Still, last time I checked researchers actually had a lot of influence on the evolution of the Internet. Edit: What I'm really saying is that if there would have been an implemented, 'universal', solution that takes civil liberties into the digital world, then it would be much harder to take these liberties away. I really don't think most politicians understand neither technology nor the fact that they are in effect infringing civil liberties like anonymity protection, freedom of expression and secrecy of letters. Who's to blame for this? Probably no one and everyone, still sad to see though.

tsally 17y ago
Still, last time I checked researchers actually had a lot of influence on the evolution of the Internet. The last time you checked must have been in the 80s then. If researchers still controlled the development of the internet, would we be having a debate about net neutrality? Politically I agree with you, but you vastly overestimate the power of researchers.
- stse 17y ago
  Maybe I should put my location (Sweden) in my profile and hopefully it's just the cultural differences that make you come across as arrogant. I do think there are some organization (ISOC, "IETF", IAB) who might not share your opinion and I guess the last time I checked was back in 2005 when DNSSEC was first implemented for the .se TLD.
  - tsally 17y ago
    No, it's not a cultural difference, I can be a bit abrasive. It's not anything directed at you, just frustration that researchers don't have a more direct pipeline for getting things done. I definitely wasn't going for arrogant though, so sorry about that. Sweden rocks as far as a lot of privacy issues go. Sweden (along with a couple other countries) were early adopters for DNSSEC. I wish we could be more like Sweden; the US is not so quick. Verisign (a for profit company) wont deploy DNSSEC on .com and .net until 2011. By contrast domains administered by the US government and a non profit (.gov and .org) are supposed to have it done by the end of this year. I think these differences illustrate nicely the point I was trying to make. Security can sometimes take a back seat on the priorities list, and even the US government and a non profit are far behind countries that choose that make it a priority.

by stse 17y ago

tsally 17y ago

Still, last time I checked researchers actually had a lot of influence on the evolution of the Internet. The last time you checked must have been in the 80s then. If researchers still controlled the development of the internet, would we be having a debate about net neutrality? Politically I agree with you, but you vastly overestimate the power of researchers.

stse 17y ago
Maybe I should put my location (Sweden) in my profile and hopefully it's just the cultural differences that make you come across as arrogant. I do think there are some organization (ISOC, "IETF", IAB) who might not share your opinion and I guess the last time I checked was back in 2005 when DNSSEC was first implemented for the .se TLD.
- tsally 17y ago
  No, it's not a cultural difference, I can be a bit abrasive. It's not anything directed at you, just frustration that researchers don't have a more direct pipeline for getting things done. I definitely wasn't going for arrogant though, so sorry about that. Sweden rocks as far as a lot of privacy issues go. Sweden (along with a couple other countries) were early adopters for DNSSEC. I wish we could be more like Sweden; the US is not so quick. Verisign (a for profit company) wont deploy DNSSEC on .com and .net until 2011. By contrast domains administered by the US government and a non profit (.gov and .org) are supposed to have it done by the end of this year. I think these differences illustrate nicely the point I was trying to make. Security can sometimes take a back seat on the priorities list, and even the US government and a non profit are far behind countries that choose that make it a priority.