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This article is low-quality ranting. The author has a certain definition of "passion" and therefore taints it to be negative to fit his list of complaints. Te
by jasode 12y ago
This article is low-quality ranting. The author has a certain definition of "passion" and therefore taints it to be negative to fit his list of complaints. Tellingly, his whole essay is focused on "passion" == "time expenditure wasted".
There's another type of "passion" where it's equal to "extreme interest in subject matter" or "pursuit of intellectual puzzles".
Since the author uses "passion" as "time wasted", his view of programming comes off as a white-collar version of bricklayer. Don't lay any more bricks and cement than is necessary for the construction foreman. Punch in the clock at 9am. Punch out promptly at 5pm. It's all about time.
See the relevant phrase excerpts:
> put in a solid eight hours
> spending twelve to sixteen hours a day in the office
> forsake everything else to spend more time coding as a badge of honor.
> programmers who spend all their waking hours on the job
> working several weeks of twelve-to-fourteen hour days with
only Sundays off
> spend all night on the job
> Put in a solid eight hour day, and then get the hell out. G
>, once you have worked a solid eight hour day, leave the office and silence your phone
>, and ignore your bosses when they bitch about you only working nine-to-five.
Being driven like a slave for 12 to 16 hour days is a legitimate gripe but harping on the word "passion" (or the fact that his superiors label it as "passion") is blaming the wrong thing.
I concede that there are many enterprise companies who need trying to recruit "passionate" programmers to maintain boring CRUD apps. Sure, a lot of these programming jobs are soul-crushing bricklaying work. Their use of "passion" is self-serving and rightfully triggers a jaded reaction.
However, a lot of startups need "passionate" programmers who genuinly enjoy algorithms, solving graphs, etc that are relevant to the companies unique technical challenges. Yes, even this type of "passionate" programmer will tend to spend more than 8 hours on the job. It's because they like the work they do. Jony Ive at Apple spends 12 hours at work because he's passionate and not because he's being chastised by Tim Cook. (Jony Ive is already a multi-millionaire and can quit if he feels he's being exploited.) That's the kind of passion many hiring managers are looking for and the author's one-dimensional essay ignores it.
- pjmlp 12y agoI have been in the industry for a while, almost every time I see "passion" coming from HR, it is as an euphemism for "we like devs that crunch and don't complain". Never saw it otherwise, not even in startups.
- jasode 12y agoIn the recent "Who's hiring" thread[1], there are several job posts describing "passion" as related to the subject matter (machine learning, or aviation, or improving literacy, etc). Yes, some of the other job posts do use the generic "passion for excellence" and/or "passionate inspirational working environment". These might be HR doublespeak for "please give up your life for us to exploit". I understand the skepticism from listings like that. My point is that "passion" mislabeled in my 2nd paragraph does not invalidate the fact that there are people genuinely passionate about topics and that companies are genuinely trying to find them. This is one reason why the word "passion" persists in job discussions. If we were a new company trying to recruit a "passionate industrial designer" like Jony Ive what word would we use instead? What word besides "passion" should we substitute in this Jony Ive article[2] ? [1]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9127232 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9127232 [2]http://www.businessinsider.com/how-apple-design-guru-jony-ive-discovered-his-passion-2015-3 http://www.businessinsider.com/how-apple-design-guru-jony-iv...