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... It will be some police/military with guns vs citizens/police/military with guns I agree that it won't get to that. but if it did, barring massive police/mi

... It will be some police/military with guns vs citizens/police/military with guns I agree that it won't get to that. but if it did, barring massive police/military mutiny, who do you think is going to win that one? If both sides have guns, I'd say it will likely be the side with more training, experience, body armour, huge ammo stock piles and armoured vehicles. Unless the majority of the police/military mutiny I don't think even the US civilian population with your ridiculous amount of guns could prevail.

krschultz 17y ago
In equal numbers the military prevails. I'm not worried about the police force. They have shotguns and pistols just like everybody else, and in most cases the enthusiasts have just as much skill as the police. And the military is tiny, less than 1% of the population. About 50% of the population owns at least 1 gun, and most who own at least 1 own several. If they can barely secure Iraq, there is no way they will secure the USA.
- SapphireSun 17y ago
  Well, they still kill something like 10-100 enemies for every soldier felled. I'm all for preventing it from getting to that point in the first place (not that I'm implying you are). Side note: While I agree this particular article is relevant to HN, its starting to bring out the crazy a bit. Can we have a moratorium on political articles for a day or two to cool it off?
  - jeromec 17y ago
    I totally disagree with a moratorium on anything that threatens liberty in the USA, especially when resulting discourse is among intellectual minds.
    - SapphireSun 17y ago
      Um, I meant this article is okay, but we need to restore balance to the force afterword.
Quarrelsome 17y ago
Guerilla warfare?
tomjen2 17y ago
If the population collectively goes against their government there can be no doubt as to the outcome: The politicians lose. Swat teams are only effective against small groups and individuals - they can't kill 300 million+ people.

krschultz 17y ago

In equal numbers the military prevails. I'm not worried about the police force. They have shotguns and pistols just like everybody else, and in most cases the enthusiasts have just as much skill as the police. And the military is tiny, less than 1% of the population. About 50% of the population owns at least 1 gun, and most who own at least 1 own several. If they can barely secure Iraq, there is no way they will secure the USA.

SapphireSun 17y ago
Well, they still kill something like 10-100 enemies for every soldier felled. I'm all for preventing it from getting to that point in the first place (not that I'm implying you are). Side note: While I agree this particular article is relevant to HN, its starting to bring out the crazy a bit. Can we have a moratorium on political articles for a day or two to cool it off?
- jeromec 17y ago
  I totally disagree with a moratorium on anything that threatens liberty in the USA, especially when resulting discourse is among intellectual minds.
  - SapphireSun 17y ago
    Um, I meant this article is okay, but we need to restore balance to the force afterword.

Quarrelsome 17y ago

Guerilla warfare?

tomjen2 17y ago

If the population collectively goes against their government there can be no doubt as to the outcome: The politicians lose. Swat teams are only effective against small groups and individuals - they can't kill 300 million+ people.