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"Clearly the idea of the 10xer has too big a place in the mythology of our industry. It's oddly masochistic and as far as I know it's unique to us. There are no

"Clearly the idea of the 10xer has too big a place in the mythology of our industry. It's oddly masochistic and as far as I know it's unique to us. There are no doctors blogging about "10x doctors" for example." It takes 6-8 years of intense training to become a doctor. This is after already doing well in college and passing a tough skills/general intelligence test. The bottom 70%+ who want to become doctors are simply not able to get through the system. If we got rid of the bottom 70% of developers we wouldn't be having these 10x conversations either.

malkia 12y ago
Last time I checked you need much more engineers than doctors.
- eatpb 12y ago
  I think his point was that the doctors vs engineers analogy was flawed BECAUSE we have more engineers than doctors.
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chm 12y ago
I don't think it's a given that someone with excellent grades in high school/college could become a good doctor, even with training. The same goes for a programmer.
guelo 12y ago
You know what they call the guy that graduates last in his med school class? Doctor.
- zamalek 12y ago
  > You know what they call the guy that graduates last in his med school class? A doctor who passed with at least 75%, so far as my local [third world] standards go.
Guthur 12y ago
And also to become a Consultant you will be expected to work the most unsocial, anti work life balance schedule ever devised. Frankly software engineer is fluffy happy world of love and inclusion compared to medicine; a more masochistic profession you will not find. My experience is second hand through my wife's participation in medicine as a hospital doctor. N.B. General Practitioners seem to have a far more acceptable work life balance.
pursuing 12y ago
How do you justify the 70% number? Do a Google site search of healthgrades.com and you'll find doctors practicing in America who graduated from American University of The Caribbean, which is among the lowest regarded of medical schools American doctors attend. I don't think admission into this university is difficult.

malkia 12y ago

Last time I checked you need much more engineers than doctors.

eatpb 12y ago
I think his point was that the doctors vs engineers analogy was flawed BECAUSE we have more engineers than doctors.
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chm 12y ago

I don't think it's a given that someone with excellent grades in high school/college could become a good doctor, even with training. The same goes for a programmer.

guelo 12y ago

You know what they call the guy that graduates last in his med school class? Doctor.

zamalek 12y ago
> You know what they call the guy that graduates last in his med school class? A doctor who passed with at least 75%, so far as my local [third world] standards go.

Guthur 12y ago

And also to become a Consultant you will be expected to work the most unsocial, anti work life balance schedule ever devised. Frankly software engineer is fluffy happy world of love and inclusion compared to medicine; a more masochistic profession you will not find. My experience is second hand through my wife's participation in medicine as a hospital doctor. N.B. General Practitioners seem to have a far more acceptable work life balance.

pursuing 12y ago

How do you justify the 70% number? Do a Google site search of healthgrades.com and you'll find doctors practicing in America who graduated from American University of The Caribbean, which is among the lowest regarded of medical schools American doctors attend. I don't think admission into this university is difficult.