I dispute your second claim, based on personal experience, as well as the Mythbusters episode on same. http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.p

I dispute your second claim, based on personal experience, as well as the Mythbusters episode on same. http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=222648 http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t... Perhaps you can find the segment online somewhere, Discovery has the after show online but not the segment itself.