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I'm quite saddened by the wiki voyage/travel situation. It's improving, but voyage still trails travel's 4181 alexa rank at 22,638. That's a huge gap. I've se

I'm quite saddened by the wiki voyage/travel situation. It's improving, but voyage still trails travel's 4181 alexa rank at 22,638. That's a huge gap. I've seen an overall drop in content quality and accuracy compared to the pre-internet brands era.

caminante 12y ago
When I looked at the two last summer, it wasn't clear that the two were separate. I was surprised to learn of the difference. Why was WikiVoyage chosen?
- cjensen 12y ago
  WikiVoyage forked to join the Wikimedia family of sites after WT's owner failed to keep its infrastructure up to date (30 seconds to make commit an edit). That the owners of WikiTravel (Internet Brands) literally sued contributors for this was less than helpful to WT's continued existence. Disclosure: I was potentially an "unnamed co-conspirator" in the lawsuit.
- jpatokal 12y ago
  This blog post of mine summarizes some of the key differences: http://gyrovague.com/2013/01/14/free-travel-guide-wikivoyage-comes-out-of-beta-and-is-already-kicking-ass/ http://gyrovague.com/2013/01/14/free-travel-guide-wikivoyage... And this is my version of how the split came to be: http://gyrovague.com/2012/07/12/wikitravel-editors-abandon-internet-brands-join-up-with-wikipedia/ http://gyrovague.com/2012/07/12/wikitravel-editors-abandon-i...
  - caminante 12y ago
    In hindsight, I phrased my question poorly -- sorry. My question pertained more to branding. Why the name "WikiVoyage?" I understand Wiki* namespace lock-in due to the Wikimedia relationship, but it doesn't seem like a great differentiator from WikiTravel. IMHO, I don't think the lay person gets the difference. Though "voyage" is a synonym for travel (and the word for travel in French), it associates closer to sailing and cruises. That said, I did find your blog entries interesting. Thanks!
    - jpatokal 12y ago
      Because a) there was an earlier German fork set up under that name, and b) the community could not agree on a better name. Personally, I liked "Wikinomad", but them's the breaks. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikivoyage/Naming_Process http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikivoyage/Naming_Process

caminante 12y ago

When I looked at the two last summer, it wasn't clear that the two were separate. I was surprised to learn of the difference. Why was WikiVoyage chosen?

cjensen 12y ago
WikiVoyage forked to join the Wikimedia family of sites after WT's owner failed to keep its infrastructure up to date (30 seconds to make commit an edit). That the owners of WikiTravel (Internet Brands) literally sued contributors for this was less than helpful to WT's continued existence. Disclosure: I was potentially an "unnamed co-conspirator" in the lawsuit.
jpatokal 12y ago
This blog post of mine summarizes some of the key differences: http://gyrovague.com/2013/01/14/free-travel-guide-wikivoyage-comes-out-of-beta-and-is-already-kicking-ass/ http://gyrovague.com/2013/01/14/free-travel-guide-wikivoyage... And this is my version of how the split came to be: http://gyrovague.com/2012/07/12/wikitravel-editors-abandon-internet-brands-join-up-with-wikipedia/ http://gyrovague.com/2012/07/12/wikitravel-editors-abandon-i...
- caminante 12y ago
  In hindsight, I phrased my question poorly -- sorry. My question pertained more to branding. Why the name "WikiVoyage?" I understand Wiki* namespace lock-in due to the Wikimedia relationship, but it doesn't seem like a great differentiator from WikiTravel. IMHO, I don't think the lay person gets the difference. Though "voyage" is a synonym for travel (and the word for travel in French), it associates closer to sailing and cruises. That said, I did find your blog entries interesting. Thanks!
  - jpatokal 12y ago
    Because a) there was an earlier German fork set up under that name, and b) the community could not agree on a better name. Personally, I liked "Wikinomad", but them's the breaks. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikivoyage/Naming_Process http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikivoyage/Naming_Process