Pinker's data being flawed doesn't make Gray's critique good. If you want a good critique read Herman and Petersen's. My own view is that the thesis is not imp

Pinker's data being flawed doesn't make Gray's critique good. If you want a good critique read Herman and Petersen's. My own view is that the thesis is not important. What is really at issue is the subtext that we should not be too worried about western violence because we are doing better than ever before and that violence is decreasing "naturally", neither of which is true or follows from the claim that violence has been historically in decline.