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> Okay, there is IS having people with backward religious believes, attacking innocent countries, torturing and executing people, terrorizing their own people,

> Okay, there is IS having people with backward religious believes, attacking innocent countries, torturing and executing people, terrorizing their own people, producing propaganda and deliberately lying to get support for or justify unjust actions...uppps, sorry, that was the USA, too, sometimes I confuse them. Arguments could be made for this in the case of the US, but it's pretty cut and dry as to IS.

danbruc 12y ago
With more time you could probably make this statement a lot smoother, I admittedly wanted to force it into shape quickly. Notwithstanding what I wrote, comparing the USA and IS involves a lot of apples and oranges and I don't want to imply otherwise. Still there are disturbing parallels.
Litost 12y ago
If you watch pt1 and pt2 of this series, and take them at face value, you'd arguably be hard pushed to see a huge difference in them either? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqwboEpZe88 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqwboEpZe88 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyDeT2tD97s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyDeT2tD97s
- danbruc 12y ago
  Thanks for the suggestion, I just watched this and it's really worth those two hours. Who is looking for a (relatively) quick glimpse at what a complex mess the situation in the middle east was and is, this would definitely not be the worst choice. And it is kind of beautiful in a strange way I can not really pin down.
  - Litost 12y ago
    Glad you found them useful, i was mildy surprised mainstream media (the bbc) was publishing them. There's a digest and comments more eloquent than i can muster from the guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2015/jan/26/bitter-lake-review-adam-curtis-afghanistan http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2015/jan/26/bitter-l... But yes, quite an eye opener and in place beautiful and haunting. If anyone has any similar pieces i'd be interested in them though Curtis himself seems to tackle some quite interesting topics: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis

danbruc 12y ago

With more time you could probably make this statement a lot smoother, I admittedly wanted to force it into shape quickly. Notwithstanding what I wrote, comparing the USA and IS involves a lot of apples and oranges and I don't want to imply otherwise. Still there are disturbing parallels.

Litost 12y ago

If you watch pt1 and pt2 of this series, and take them at face value, you'd arguably be hard pushed to see a huge difference in them either? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqwboEpZe88 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqwboEpZe88 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyDeT2tD97s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyDeT2tD97s

danbruc 12y ago
Thanks for the suggestion, I just watched this and it's really worth those two hours. Who is looking for a (relatively) quick glimpse at what a complex mess the situation in the middle east was and is, this would definitely not be the worst choice. And it is kind of beautiful in a strange way I can not really pin down.
- Litost 12y ago
  Glad you found them useful, i was mildy surprised mainstream media (the bbc) was publishing them. There's a digest and comments more eloquent than i can muster from the guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2015/jan/26/bitter-lake-review-adam-curtis-afghanistan http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2015/jan/26/bitter-l... But yes, quite an eye opener and in place beautiful and haunting. If anyone has any similar pieces i'd be interested in them though Curtis himself seems to tackle some quite interesting topics: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis