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What is the "baggage" of Java? This is just a JVM and Java's JVM has no much more baggage than any other implementation. In order for this to be practical in te

by kolev 12y ago

What is the "baggage" of Java? This is just a JVM and Java's JVM has no much more baggage than any other implementation. In order for this to be practical in terms of performance, reliability, and so on, years have to pass and meanwhile Oracle JDK and OpenJDK are not gonna stay still. As a side note, I really wonder how an engineer can use ghetto talk like "crazy sh*t" and especially in this forum here.

girvo 12y ago
> ghetto talk Excuse me?
- kolev 12y ago
  I'm sorry you're offended, maybe that's part of your lingo, too, but "crazy sht" is ghetto talk. Indeed. A self-respected and honorable engineer pays attention to detail - not only in their work, but in their language as well and especially in the meticulous choice of words. English is not my native tongue, but I respect it very much, and the language I respect does not include phrases such as "crazy sht" - it's a rich and very expressive language and only the severely incapacitated include those in their written communication.
  - smt88 12y ago
    First of all, saying that profanity is "ghetto talk" is racist. Ghettos are places that (often poor and persecuted) minorities[1] are pressured to live. So what you said was far more offensive than saying "crazy shit"[2]. Second, wealthier people swear more[3]. So not only are you racist, you're also wrong. Third, there's a great deal of research showing the usefulness of profanity. It conveys emotional content in a way that other words can't. If you refuse to accept and understand profanity, you're neutering the language. 1. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ghetto http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ghetto 2. (On that note, "ghetto" is often used by racist Americans as a pejorative euphemism for "black".) 3. http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/04/10/nine-things-you-probably-didnt-know-about-swear-words/ http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/04/10/nine-things-you-probably...
    - kolev 12y ago
      There's not one or two races in a ghetto - I've been in some myself, so, let's not abuse the "R" word. "Crazy sht" is not swearing, not even profanity; it's just weak speech and a cliche that needs to be eradicated - the whole "sht" thing stinks, literally.
      - smt88 12y ago
        A ghetto is, by definition, mostly populated by minority races. It might be several minorities, but it must be minorities. You say you love English, so you should be particularly sensitive to using a word as it's defined. What you said was racist, whether you intended it to be or not. Look up the definition and use the word "ghetto" correctly in the future. Using a very loaded word incorrectly is far weaker than saying "crazy shit". Speaking of crazy shit: if it's neither swearing nor profanity, why won't you spell it correctly in your quotes? Anyway, your argument here isn't intellectual unless you have some functionally equivalent suggestion to replace "crazy shit" with. And, like I said, profanity has additional emotional content, so you can't replace it with anything that isn't profane without losing some meaning.
        kolev 12y ago
        Bullshit (pun intended)! You confuse ethnicity with race. In California where I live, the ghettos are populated by the majority race [0]. Regarding the spelling, I used the OP's spelling to stress out. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_California https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_California
        kolev 12y ago
        Sorry, I wanted to use "sh*t", but a single asterisk actually acts as a special formatting character. Too late, I can't edit it.
neilellis 12y ago
Yo bitches, I am not an engineer - you may have noticed that this is Hacker News - not Engineering Weekly. I ain't never built any machinery - or designed no bridges - I'm just mo programming wit deez wild fingers. Take it easy - until you know the language well enough to know when someone is using a complement like 'crazy sh*t' - I wouldn't rush to judge them. Context is everything - as the first two words of this comment attest. Context is everything :-)
- kolev 12y ago
  Impotent language, sorry.

by kolev 12y ago

girvo 12y ago

> ghetto talk Excuse me?

kolev 12y ago
I'm sorry you're offended, maybe that's part of your lingo, too, but "crazy sht" is ghetto talk. Indeed. A self-respected and honorable engineer pays attention to detail - not only in their work, but in their language as well and especially in the meticulous choice of words. English is not my native tongue, but I respect it very much, and the language I respect does not include phrases such as "crazy sht" - it's a rich and very expressive language and only the severely incapacitated include those in their written communication.
- smt88 12y ago
  First of all, saying that profanity is "ghetto talk" is racist. Ghettos are places that (often poor and persecuted) minorities[1] are pressured to live. So what you said was far more offensive than saying "crazy shit"[2]. Second, wealthier people swear more[3]. So not only are you racist, you're also wrong. Third, there's a great deal of research showing the usefulness of profanity. It conveys emotional content in a way that other words can't. If you refuse to accept and understand profanity, you're neutering the language. 1. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ghetto http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ghetto 2. (On that note, "ghetto" is often used by racist Americans as a pejorative euphemism for "black".) 3. http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/04/10/nine-things-you-probably-didnt-know-about-swear-words/ http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/04/10/nine-things-you-probably...
  - kolev 12y ago
    There's not one or two races in a ghetto - I've been in some myself, so, let's not abuse the "R" word. "Crazy sht" is not swearing, not even profanity; it's just weak speech and a cliche that needs to be eradicated - the whole "sht" thing stinks, literally.
    - smt88 12y ago
      A ghetto is, by definition, mostly populated by minority races. It might be several minorities, but it must be minorities. You say you love English, so you should be particularly sensitive to using a word as it's defined. What you said was racist, whether you intended it to be or not. Look up the definition and use the word "ghetto" correctly in the future. Using a very loaded word incorrectly is far weaker than saying "crazy shit". Speaking of crazy shit: if it's neither swearing nor profanity, why won't you spell it correctly in your quotes? Anyway, your argument here isn't intellectual unless you have some functionally equivalent suggestion to replace "crazy shit" with. And, like I said, profanity has additional emotional content, so you can't replace it with anything that isn't profane without losing some meaning.
      - kolev 12y ago
        Bullshit (pun intended)! You confuse ethnicity with race. In California where I live, the ghettos are populated by the majority race [0]. Regarding the spelling, I used the OP's spelling to stress out. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_California https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_California
      - kolev 12y ago
        Sorry, I wanted to use "sh*t", but a single asterisk actually acts as a special formatting character. Too late, I can't edit it.

neilellis 12y ago

Yo bitches, I am not an engineer - you may have noticed that this is Hacker News - not Engineering Weekly. I ain't never built any machinery - or designed no bridges - I'm just mo programming wit deez wild fingers. Take it easy - until you know the language well enough to know when someone is using a complement like 'crazy sh*t' - I wouldn't rush to judge them. Context is everything - as the first two words of this comment attest. Context is everything :-)

kolev 12y ago
Impotent language, sorry.