> My experience with frameworks has been that, once you go outside the stuff that comes with the framework, they start to hold you back more than they help you.

> My experience with frameworks has been that, once you go outside the stuff that comes with the framework, they start to hold you back more than they help you. That's why I prefer to use microframeworks over full blown frameworks. I can make it get out of the way if I want to by swapping out parts I dont like.