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Considering that Zuckerberg is a great admire of China and apparently socialism[0], it doesn't come to me as a huge surprise that these "ethics" are guidelines

by abdias 12y ago

Considering that Zuckerberg is a great admire of China and apparently socialism[0], it doesn't come to me as a huge surprise that these "ethics" are guidelines for Facebook. “I’ve also bought copies of this book for my colleagues,” Zuckerberg was quoted as saying by a Chinese news website. “I want them to understand socialism with Chinese characteristics.” [0]: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/12/08/why-does-mark-zuckerberg-want-facebook-employees-to-read-the-chinese-presidents-book/ http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/12/08...

jacobolus 12y ago
I’m no fan of Zuckerberg or the CCP, but that’s ridiculous. Hosting a Chinese official at the Facebook office and telling a Chinese news site that he gave some copies of the Chinese president’s new book to his colleagues isn’t any kind of useful evidence about Zuckerberg’s personal political beliefs or Facebook’s governing principles.
- abdias 12y ago
  It wasn't presented as evidence for any claim. "Apparently" isn't a claim. The correlations between the ideology and what happens with Facebook is synonymous though, so it's neither far fetched. But I guess you need to have some historic understanding to see that (and that's a little too broad to present in a comment field). (edit: for admin: I up-voted this post and got an "user mismatch" error as response page - perhaps something the devs want to look into).
  - scintill76 12y ago
    By some definitions, "apparently" does soften your statement, but you are still essentially claiming "Zuckerberg is a great admirer of China and socialism" with a citation that doesn't really support that. Going only by your quote, he could just be saying, "I think it will be valuable to my business for my employees to understand Chinese socialism." By other definitions, "apparently" strengthens your claim to an "obvious" statement of truth, so maybe people are reacting strongly because they read it that way.
  - alexbecker 12y ago
    > "Apparently" isn't a claim. Since when?
zghst 12y ago
I can be disgusted at this can I?
vvpan 12y ago
You say "socialism" like it's a bad thing.
- killerpopiller 12y ago
  the zuckerberg variation might be even more totalitarian like the ones before! The STASI would have loved facebook for what it is.
- zo1 12y ago
  Well, to some it is a bad thing. Then again, we do all have our own opinions. And we, as a society, have not yet achieved consensus/agreement on whether socialism is good/bad.
- tomjen3 12y ago
  Objectively it causes harm, far more so than it brings benefits. Hence it is, objectively, bad.
tomjen3 12y ago
If everybody read important books by people they disagreed with, we would all be better of.
joesmo 12y ago
"socialism with Chinese characteristics" He means communism, which is essentially a tyrannical dictatorship. Not surprising indeed. What a scumbag. Supporting communism is no different than supporting naziism.

by abdias 12y ago

jacobolus 12y ago

I’m no fan of Zuckerberg or the CCP, but that’s ridiculous. Hosting a Chinese official at the Facebook office and telling a Chinese news site that he gave some copies of the Chinese president’s new book to his colleagues isn’t any kind of useful evidence about Zuckerberg’s personal political beliefs or Facebook’s governing principles.

abdias 12y ago
It wasn't presented as evidence for any claim. "Apparently" isn't a claim. The correlations between the ideology and what happens with Facebook is synonymous though, so it's neither far fetched. But I guess you need to have some historic understanding to see that (and that's a little too broad to present in a comment field). (edit: for admin: I up-voted this post and got an "user mismatch" error as response page - perhaps something the devs want to look into).
- scintill76 12y ago
  By some definitions, "apparently" does soften your statement, but you are still essentially claiming "Zuckerberg is a great admirer of China and socialism" with a citation that doesn't really support that. Going only by your quote, he could just be saying, "I think it will be valuable to my business for my employees to understand Chinese socialism." By other definitions, "apparently" strengthens your claim to an "obvious" statement of truth, so maybe people are reacting strongly because they read it that way.
- alexbecker 12y ago
  > "Apparently" isn't a claim. Since when?

zghst 12y ago

I can be disgusted at this can I?

vvpan 12y ago

You say "socialism" like it's a bad thing.

killerpopiller 12y ago
the zuckerberg variation might be even more totalitarian like the ones before! The STASI would have loved facebook for what it is.
zo1 12y ago
Well, to some it is a bad thing. Then again, we do all have our own opinions. And we, as a society, have not yet achieved consensus/agreement on whether socialism is good/bad.
tomjen3 12y ago
Objectively it causes harm, far more so than it brings benefits. Hence it is, objectively, bad.

tomjen3 12y ago

If everybody read important books by people they disagreed with, we would all be better of.

joesmo 12y ago

"socialism with Chinese characteristics" He means communism, which is essentially a tyrannical dictatorship. Not surprising indeed. What a scumbag. Supporting communism is no different than supporting naziism.