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The OP's mistake is to characterize all "moral facts" as simple binary answers. Cheating = bad. Killing = wrong. Those are too simple. That they are labeled
by sandworm 12y ago
The OP's mistake is to characterize all "moral facts" as simple binary answers. Cheating = bad. Killing = wrong. Those are too simple. That they are labeled opinion does not imply that there aren't any not-simple moral facts.
"Cheating undermines meritocracies and is therefor frowned upon by those in control of such."
I'd say that qualifies as a moral fact and most all would call it an accurate description of a state of affairs, a fact.
"All men are created equal" is not a fact, or even an opinion imho. It is a hope, a dream of people trying to describe an ideal state of affairs. That it isn't a "fact" doesn't mean that it cannot be something to believe in and strive for.
- icebraining 12y ago"Cheating undermines meritocracies and is therefor frowned upon by those in control of such." I'd say that qualifies as a moral fact What makes that a moral fact? What's the moral part?
- dragonwriter 12y agoYour description of cheating presents facts, but there is nothing moral about them, except in that they are facts that explain why one group of people may prefer another group of people to accept something as a moral truth. (Which isn't what people generally mean when they asset the existence or nonexistence of "moral facts")
- nsxwolf 12y ago"All men are created equal", if we're talking about what Thomas Jefferson wrote, means all human beings are equally deserving of rights and possess equal worth. It does not refer to objective criteria like intelligence, beauty, strength, etc.