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I wonder whether anybody would install IE on Mac OS or GNU/Linux if it would be available. I do not think so.

barsonme 12y ago
I would. I installed IE7 thought wine. Partly because masochism, partly because if I could make my website look good in IE7 running through wine then it would look good on any browser.
endemic 12y ago
I would, if only for testing. I regularly cycle browsers to gain familiarity with them.
mhd 12y ago
Once upon a time, IE was the best browser available on Mac -- mostly due to being actually quite good. If that quality would return, I can see some people switching. Maybe not the "rockstar Ruby/Go developers", but a lot of the people who just need their $1k facebook machines. As for Linux, well, I don't think you'll go far there with proprietary programs. But let's assume a .NET like open source initiative. I'd give IE the application a pretty small market share then, but see no problem at all with programs using the rendering engine, i.e. a common "libIE" dependency. (And, of course, if it actually is the same engine as on Windows, testing alone would guarantee a lot of installations)
- seanp2k2 12y ago
  .net cross-platform is called Mono: http://www.mono-project.com/docs/about-mono/supported-platforms/osx/ http://www.mono-project.com/docs/about-mono/supported-platfo...
- robin_reala 12y ago
  IE on Mac was a completely different beast to IE on Windows; it had separate rendering[1] and Javascript engines. There was an IE for Unix[2] which shared the Trident engine, but it never got significant traction. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tasman_%28layout_engine%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tasman_%28layout_engine%29 [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_for_UNIX http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_for_UNIX
- dasil003 12y ago
  There was a brief moment in time where IE 5 for Mac had the best CSS support of any browser on any platform (IE on Windows was a completely different engine). However part of being on the bleeding edge was that when development stagnated it had the weirdest bugs that we had to deal with for years.
- exprL 12y ago
  >mostly due to being actually quite good While I wouldn't generally praise (any of) the browsers of that time, Macs really didn't have much competition at that time when it came to web browsers.
- tripzilch 12y ago
  > Once upon a time, IE was the best browser available on Mac -- mostly due to being actually quite good. Huh, really. When was this then? I remember from during my veteran days of the browser wars (2005-2008 or so), IE for Mac was the only browser that PPK (of the Quirksmode.org compatibility tables) actually outright dismissed and at some point stopped testing for. If I remember correctly, his words were "bug-ridden crash-prone piece of trash".
drinchev 12y ago
I'm regularly using IE for testing with VirtualBox and images from Microsoft's official site [1]. Though I doubt there is a possibility to do the other way around with Safari on Windows. [1] http://modern.ie/ http://modern.ie/
- lazylizard 12y ago
  i was using this to run application loader on windows...https://atlas.hashicorp.com/jhcook/boxes/osx-yosemite-10.10 https://atlas.hashicorp.com/jhcook/boxes/osx-yosemite-10.10
nisse72 12y ago
In the mid 90's, before Linux had gained any traction in corporate environments, IE was available for some flavours of Unix such as Solaris and HP-UX. In the Solaris shop I was working at the time, I remember we had a great laughs at the slogan they were using: "Bringing the internet to Unix". I don't believe it was particularly popular and it dissapeared quietly a few years later: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_for_UNIX http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_for_UNIX
- DougMerritt 12y ago
  That is laughably ballsy. Bringing coal to Newcastle, as they used to say. Hey Michelangelo, sign up for my art class and I'll show you how it's done.

I would. I installed IE7 thought wine. Partly because masochism, partly because if I could make my website look good in IE7 running through wine then it would look good on any browser.

endemic 12y ago

I would, if only for testing. I regularly cycle browsers to gain familiarity with them.

mhd 12y ago

Once upon a time, IE was the best browser available on Mac -- mostly due to being actually quite good. If that quality would return, I can see some people switching. Maybe not the "rockstar Ruby/Go developers", but a lot of the people who just need their $1k facebook machines. As for Linux, well, I don't think you'll go far there with proprietary programs. But let's assume a .NET like open source initiative. I'd give IE the application a pretty small market share then, but see no problem at all with programs using the rendering engine, i.e. a common "libIE" dependency. (And, of course, if it actually is the same engine as on Windows, testing alone would guarantee a lot of installations)

seanp2k2 12y ago
.net cross-platform is called Mono: http://www.mono-project.com/docs/about-mono/supported-platforms/osx/ http://www.mono-project.com/docs/about-mono/supported-platfo...
robin_reala 12y ago
IE on Mac was a completely different beast to IE on Windows; it had separate rendering[1] and Javascript engines. There was an IE for Unix[2] which shared the Trident engine, but it never got significant traction. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tasman_%28layout_engine%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tasman_%28layout_engine%29 [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_for_UNIX http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_for_UNIX
dasil003 12y ago
There was a brief moment in time where IE 5 for Mac had the best CSS support of any browser on any platform (IE on Windows was a completely different engine). However part of being on the bleeding edge was that when development stagnated it had the weirdest bugs that we had to deal with for years.
exprL 12y ago
>mostly due to being actually quite good While I wouldn't generally praise (any of) the browsers of that time, Macs really didn't have much competition at that time when it came to web browsers.
tripzilch 12y ago
> Once upon a time, IE was the best browser available on Mac -- mostly due to being actually quite good. Huh, really. When was this then? I remember from during my veteran days of the browser wars (2005-2008 or so), IE for Mac was the only browser that PPK (of the Quirksmode.org compatibility tables) actually outright dismissed and at some point stopped testing for. If I remember correctly, his words were "bug-ridden crash-prone piece of trash".

drinchev 12y ago

I'm regularly using IE for testing with VirtualBox and images from Microsoft's official site [1]. Though I doubt there is a possibility to do the other way around with Safari on Windows. [1] http://modern.ie/ http://modern.ie/

lazylizard 12y ago
i was using this to run application loader on windows...https://atlas.hashicorp.com/jhcook/boxes/osx-yosemite-10.10 https://atlas.hashicorp.com/jhcook/boxes/osx-yosemite-10.10

nisse72 12y ago

In the mid 90's, before Linux had gained any traction in corporate environments, IE was available for some flavours of Unix such as Solaris and HP-UX. In the Solaris shop I was working at the time, I remember we had a great laughs at the slogan they were using: "Bringing the internet to Unix". I don't believe it was particularly popular and it dissapeared quietly a few years later: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_for_UNIX http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_for_UNIX

DougMerritt 12y ago
That is laughably ballsy. Bringing coal to Newcastle, as they used to say. Hey Michelangelo, sign up for my art class and I'll show you how it's done.