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And it makes you wonder how much higher those salaries could be if we could somehow organize in some collective kinda way, and demand a bigger piece of the pie

by Frondo 12y ago

And it makes you wonder how much higher those salaries could be if we could somehow organize in some collective kinda way, and demand a bigger piece of the pie for our side of the management/worker equation...

Florin_Andrei 12y ago
TBH, I'm not so much worried about those in our line of work. We're doing comparatively fine. But there are a lot of folks out there who are hurting. If I wasn't a nerdy kid who toyed with computers in school, I'd be in a very different place right now. Once that's much less nice. (But yes, you're right in principle.)
- AnthonyMouse 12y ago
  > TBH, I'm not so much worried about those in our line of work. We're doing comparatively fine. That's not really what it's about though. The upper middle class is what drives the economy. The super rich are not the job creators, the almost rich are. You give an extra $25K/year to a multi-millionaire and it changes nothing for them, but to someone making $150K/year they're not making so much that it doesn't affect their spending. And the almost-rich buy services. They pay people to do the jobs you can't outsource and you don't need a degree to do. So if you want to help the poor, go ask your boss for a raise and then spend the money.
  - swatow 12y ago
    Jobs are not an externality. If you want to help the poor, give money to charity.
ryandvm 12y ago
I would rather my salary be proportional to my skill instead of my tenure.
- Frondo 12y ago
  Of course, any workplace union is free to negotiate the terms for how its workers are compensated on its own. Connecting salary to length of employment is just one way. A hypothetical new software-themed union could define another scheme for a pay scale. (And as a side note, for my part, I would rather my salary be defined as simply as "as much as I can get" rather than my skill or my tenure.)

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And it makes you wonder how much higher those salaries could be if we could somehow organize in some collective kinda way, and demand a bigger piece of the pie

by Frondo 12y ago

Florin_Andrei 12y ago
TBH, I'm not so much worried about those in our line of work. We're doing comparatively fine. But there are a lot of folks out there who are hurting. If I wasn't a nerdy kid who toyed with computers in school, I'd be in a very different place right now. Once that's much less nice. (But yes, you're right in principle.)
- AnthonyMouse 12y ago
  > TBH, I'm not so much worried about those in our line of work. We're doing comparatively fine. That's not really what it's about though. The upper middle class is what drives the economy. The super rich are not the job creators, the almost rich are. You give an extra $25K/year to a multi-millionaire and it changes nothing for them, but to someone making $150K/year they're not making so much that it doesn't affect their spending. And the almost-rich buy services. They pay people to do the jobs you can't outsource and you don't need a degree to do. So if you want to help the poor, go ask your boss for a raise and then spend the money.
  - swatow 12y ago
    Jobs are not an externality. If you want to help the poor, give money to charity.
ryandvm 12y ago
I would rather my salary be proportional to my skill instead of my tenure.
- Frondo 12y ago
  Of course, any workplace union is free to negotiate the terms for how its workers are compensated on its own. Connecting salary to length of employment is just one way. A hypothetical new software-themed union could define another scheme for a pay scale. (And as a side note, for my part, I would rather my salary be defined as simply as "as much as I can get" rather than my skill or my tenure.)