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I'm concerned about the implications of these license terms: [...] you do hereby grant Algorithmia, in its capacity as the provider of the Services, a worl

by logn 12y ago

I'm concerned about the implications of these license terms: [...] you do hereby grant Algorithmia, in its capacity as the provider of the Services, a worldwide, non-exclusive, perpetual, irrevocable, fully paid-up and royalty free license to use and permit others to use the Software (including the source code if made viewable) in any manner and without restriction of any kind or accounting to you, including, without limitation, the right to make, have made, sell, offer for sale, use, rent, lease, import, copy, prepare derivative works, publicly display, publicly perform, and distribute all or any part of the Software and any modifications, derivatives and combinations thereof and to sublicense (directly or indirectly through multiple tiers) or transfer any and all such rights; provided, however, that if your Software includes any FOSS, in the event of a conflict between the applicable FOSS license terms and the license terms set forth in this paragraph, the applicable FOSS license terms will control, but only to the extent required by the FOSS that you use. https://algorithmia.com/api_dev_terms https://algorithmia.com/api_dev_terms (edited to add line breaks)

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wlesieutre 12y ago
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platypii 12y ago
The terms here are necessary to provide the services that we offer via Algorithmia. We need the right to run your code and make it available. It needs to be in perpetuity so that consumers of the API can put it in production with the assurance that it will continue to be available in the future. That being said, the quoted passage lacks the context of the rest of our terms -- namely, yes, we get the right to make your work available, but in return it's OUR obligation to share the profits with the original authors. (Kenny @ Algorithmia)
- logn 12y ago
  This just seems overly broad for your purposes. Plus you reserve the right to update the terms, yet you have an irrevocable license to your users' software. I just don't see this being realistic for anything except thin wrappers around FOSS projects. That's great in itself, but I'm not sure why you offer the "closed source" option for projects. Based on your terms, you could turn around and open source all those since users have given you power to sub-license. Granted, I doubt you'd do that but it demonstrates how needlessly broad your terms are. (I'm not a lawyer; this is just my speculation and not advice)

by logn 12y ago

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wlesieutre 12y ago

If you use a code block for text, including line breaks is helpful

platypii 12y ago

The terms here are necessary to provide the services that we offer via Algorithmia. We need the right to run your code and make it available. It needs to be in perpetuity so that consumers of the API can put it in production with the assurance that it will continue to be available in the future. That being said, the quoted passage lacks the context of the rest of our terms -- namely, yes, we get the right to make your work available, but in return it's OUR obligation to share the profits with the original authors. (Kenny @ Algorithmia)

logn 12y ago
This just seems overly broad for your purposes. Plus you reserve the right to update the terms, yet you have an irrevocable license to your users' software. I just don't see this being realistic for anything except thin wrappers around FOSS projects. That's great in itself, but I'm not sure why you offer the "closed source" option for projects. Based on your terms, you could turn around and open source all those since users have given you power to sub-license. Granted, I doubt you'd do that but it demonstrates how needlessly broad your terms are. (I'm not a lawyer; this is just my speculation and not advice)