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What an absurd statement by the author. These people were interviewing for an apartment in a notoriously tough housing market - they were probably just "postur

What an absurd statement by the author. These people were interviewing for an apartment in a notoriously tough housing market - they were probably just "posturing" (mentioning their good jobs and money) because they thought it would help them get the apartment. He sounds like an outlier of a landlord who prefers a sketchy semi-employed roommate to one with a guaranteed salary.

slayed0 12y ago
In his defense he has to cohabitate with the new tenant, not just collect rent checks from him.
und3rw4t3rp00ps 12y ago
dudes got a right to feel vibes, man.
untog 12y ago
He's not really a landlord if he's looking for a roommate. I mean, technically he is, obviously, but it's not a traditional landlord - tenant relationship when you're living in the apartment together. And I'm not sure in what world talking up how much money you make or the vacations you take would endear you to a potential roommate - it'll just make you sound pompous.
- calbear81 12y ago
  In a world where roommates don't always pay their rent on time and in turn screw you because now you have to cover since they're not on the lease. Vetting a roommates's ability to pay rent is not unreasonable.
  - untog 12y ago
    If you're in SF and the person says they are a techie, they can pay rent. You don't need to go into boastful details about it. (in any case, you should really be signing a sublease agreement)
    - ethanbond 12y ago
      Yeah I've totally never run into someone who "owns a startup" and was "actually broke."
  - hapless 12y ago
    Ross Ulbricht did skip out on the rent, after all.
  - DonHopkins 12y ago
    And roommates who make a lot of money but DON'T spend it on exotic vacations and other luxuries are much better than roommates who do spend every penny they make on ephemeral luxuries. But then again, as long as your roommate has paid his rent in advance, one of the nicest times of the year in San Francisco is when all the burners are out of town. http://www.jwz.org/blog/2014/08/i-wish-you-could-stay-on-the-playa-forever-too/ http://www.jwz.org/blog/2014/08/i-wish-you-could-stay-on-the...
- bduerst 12y ago
  SF is one of those worlds. The rental market is intense, and people look for many ways to stand out. It looks like it worked for this case, just that it's not what they wanted in a roommate.
calibraxis 12y ago
... and they posture to get jobs, friends, romantic relationships, to feel good about their place in the social pecking order... I know some such people well.
- nashashmi 12y ago
  (shudder)
67726e 12y ago
Did you read TFA? It says they were both subletters and were not on the same lease. He wasn't a landlord, he wasn't on the hook for Ulbrich's half of the rent. He wanted a friend, not a tool for a roommate.
ma2rten 12y ago
"Both Ross and I were subletters, so we never signed the same lease."
nashashmi 12y ago
Actually, I will pick somebody to be real over "posturing." I hate people who try to be "showy" more and refrain from easing up occasionally. I know this is converse to the way the "professional" world is and also converse to people who play along the rules of professionalism. But dammit, it ain't real! And it needs to stop! Be who you are! And then change it from the inside out, if you need to.
- chrismarlow9 12y ago
  The problem is if "who you are" is a quiet, fairly shy person, you will get run over by everybody in SF. Just my opinion. I've been to 40 different states and met people from all of them. The SF crowd has very little empathy towards other adults. Abandoned dog? Theyll adopt right away. Child with a peanut allergy? Theyll murder every peanut in sight and ban peanut butter city-wide. Grown adult trying to just find a place to live or get a decent job? You're entirely on your own. I've seen fake empathy used more here to play people than legit empathy to help another adult struggling.

slayed0 12y ago

In his defense he has to cohabitate with the new tenant, not just collect rent checks from him.

und3rw4t3rp00ps 12y ago

dudes got a right to feel vibes, man.

untog 12y ago

He's not really a landlord if he's looking for a roommate. I mean, technically he is, obviously, but it's not a traditional landlord - tenant relationship when you're living in the apartment together. And I'm not sure in what world talking up how much money you make or the vacations you take would endear you to a potential roommate - it'll just make you sound pompous.

calbear81 12y ago
In a world where roommates don't always pay their rent on time and in turn screw you because now you have to cover since they're not on the lease. Vetting a roommates's ability to pay rent is not unreasonable.
- untog 12y ago
  If you're in SF and the person says they are a techie, they can pay rent. You don't need to go into boastful details about it. (in any case, you should really be signing a sublease agreement)
  - ethanbond 12y ago
    Yeah I've totally never run into someone who "owns a startup" and was "actually broke."
- hapless 12y ago
  Ross Ulbricht did skip out on the rent, after all.
- DonHopkins 12y ago
  And roommates who make a lot of money but DON'T spend it on exotic vacations and other luxuries are much better than roommates who do spend every penny they make on ephemeral luxuries. But then again, as long as your roommate has paid his rent in advance, one of the nicest times of the year in San Francisco is when all the burners are out of town. http://www.jwz.org/blog/2014/08/i-wish-you-could-stay-on-the-playa-forever-too/ http://www.jwz.org/blog/2014/08/i-wish-you-could-stay-on-the...
bduerst 12y ago
SF is one of those worlds. The rental market is intense, and people look for many ways to stand out. It looks like it worked for this case, just that it's not what they wanted in a roommate.

calibraxis 12y ago

... and they posture to get jobs, friends, romantic relationships, to feel good about their place in the social pecking order... I know some such people well.

nashashmi 12y ago
(shudder)

67726e 12y ago

Did you read TFA? It says they were both subletters and were not on the same lease. He wasn't a landlord, he wasn't on the hook for Ulbrich's half of the rent. He wanted a friend, not a tool for a roommate.

ma2rten 12y ago

"Both Ross and I were subletters, so we never signed the same lease."

nashashmi 12y ago

Actually, I will pick somebody to be real over "posturing." I hate people who try to be "showy" more and refrain from easing up occasionally. I know this is converse to the way the "professional" world is and also converse to people who play along the rules of professionalism. But dammit, it ain't real! And it needs to stop! Be who you are! And then change it from the inside out, if you need to.

chrismarlow9 12y ago
The problem is if "who you are" is a quiet, fairly shy person, you will get run over by everybody in SF. Just my opinion. I've been to 40 different states and met people from all of them. The SF crowd has very little empathy towards other adults. Abandoned dog? Theyll adopt right away. Child with a peanut allergy? Theyll murder every peanut in sight and ban peanut butter city-wide. Grown adult trying to just find a place to live or get a decent job? You're entirely on your own. I've seen fake empathy used more here to play people than legit empathy to help another adult struggling.