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This looks like a really cool product, but where are the TOS and privacy policy? I know not having them is the in thing now (I'm looking at you, StackOverflow),

This looks like a really cool product, but where are the TOS and privacy policy? I know not having them is the in thing now (I'm looking at you, StackOverflow), but there's no way I'm signing up for anything and giving my data without them.

gertburger 17y ago
They are presented during the second stage of signup.
- DanielStraight 17y ago
  Yet I would never go to the second stage without seeing them. This sounds like a paradox. ... and I just signed up without seeing any TOS, so...
  - gertburger 17y ago
    The links I got from the second stage(Which I had to agree to via a checkbox) are these: https://a.thymer.com/accounts/tos https://a.thymer.com/accounts/tos https://a.thymer.com/accounts/privacy https://a.thymer.com/accounts/privacy
    - DanielStraight 17y ago
      Why did I not get this second stage???
  - jd 17y ago
    It was a bit of a dilemma for us. On the one hand, we realize the importance of the TOS and Privacy policy, on the other hand, we don't like the "Hi there, thanks for visiting. Please sign our TOS" kind of welcome; it's so cold. EDIT: added links to the TOS and Privacy policy to the footer on thymer.com
    - DanielStraight 17y ago
      Right but it's silly to say, "Make sure you - and, when using Thymer in a team, all other team members - ("you") read these Terms carefully before subscribing to Thymer. By using Thymer you agree to become bound by these Terms. If you do not agree to all Terms, you may not subscribe to Thymer," and then not put a link to these terms anywhere in the signup process.
      - wim 17y ago
        Thanks for pointing that out. We meant to give people the chance to first try it without having to bother through all kinds of forms, so our initial idea was to reflect these terms onto the (free) subscription period after the testing. But I agree the way it's presented now is a bit confusing. So we're going to change that, thanks!
        DanielStraight 17y ago
        Awesome. I realize I'm probably in the minority on reading TOS, but when I'm paying for something (or trying something which I might pay for), I like to know all the details, especially when I'm likely to be submitting personal data to the site.

gertburger 17y ago

They are presented during the second stage of signup.

DanielStraight 17y ago
Yet I would never go to the second stage without seeing them. This sounds like a paradox. ... and I just signed up without seeing any TOS, so...
- gertburger 17y ago
  The links I got from the second stage(Which I had to agree to via a checkbox) are these: https://a.thymer.com/accounts/tos https://a.thymer.com/accounts/tos https://a.thymer.com/accounts/privacy https://a.thymer.com/accounts/privacy
  - DanielStraight 17y ago
    Why did I not get this second stage???
- jd 17y ago
  It was a bit of a dilemma for us. On the one hand, we realize the importance of the TOS and Privacy policy, on the other hand, we don't like the "Hi there, thanks for visiting. Please sign our TOS" kind of welcome; it's so cold. EDIT: added links to the TOS and Privacy policy to the footer on thymer.com
  - DanielStraight 17y ago
    Right but it's silly to say, "Make sure you - and, when using Thymer in a team, all other team members - ("you") read these Terms carefully before subscribing to Thymer. By using Thymer you agree to become bound by these Terms. If you do not agree to all Terms, you may not subscribe to Thymer," and then not put a link to these terms anywhere in the signup process.
    - wim 17y ago
      Thanks for pointing that out. We meant to give people the chance to first try it without having to bother through all kinds of forms, so our initial idea was to reflect these terms onto the (free) subscription period after the testing. But I agree the way it's presented now is a bit confusing. So we're going to change that, thanks!
      - DanielStraight 17y ago
        Awesome. I realize I'm probably in the minority on reading TOS, but when I'm paying for something (or trying something which I might pay for), I like to know all the details, especially when I'm likely to be submitting personal data to the site.