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How "lawful content" is determined and how liberal they are at blocking is the real question. Obviously sites like thepiratebay.se will be censored, but how ab
by tubbs 12y ago
How "lawful content" is determined and how liberal they are at blocking is the real question.
Obviously sites like thepiratebay.se will be censored, but how about, say, torrentfreaks?
I continue to believe that none of this will be an issue if we continue to push encryption.
- diminoten 12y ago> Obviously sites like thepiratebay.se will be censored What? No they won't. Comcast/Verizon/No one is going to block sites for their customers on the Internet. They don't today, and they won't tomorrow. Except child porn. That shit gets blocked and will continue to get blocked, regularly. But that's about it.
- dublinben 12y ago>That shit gets blocked and will continue to get blocked Does it? I'm unaware of any legally binding or ISP level blocking of this sort in the US.
- diminoten 12y agoHonestly neither am I but I know the one exception to freedom (and for good reason) in the US is child porn.
- rmxt 12y agoI wouldn't be so quick to assume that ISPs in the US won't go above and beyond the "call of duty" now, or in the near future. ISPs in the UK [1] and Denmark [2] have already shown willingness to do more than what is legally required of them in order to appease the government or copyright interest groups. What makes Verizon or Comcast different from those ISPs? [1] http://torrentfreak.com/sky-broadband-starts-blocking-pirate-bay-proxies-130603/ http://torrentfreak.com/sky-broadband-starts-blocking-pirate... [2] https://torrentfreak.com/isps-agree-voluntary-pirate-site-blocks-141011/ https://torrentfreak.com/isps-agree-voluntary-pirate-site-bl...
- vertex-four 12y agoIf you have broadband from Sky, you are knowingly using a content company for your Internet provider, rather than a company that actually makes its money on providing Internet access. You don't have to do that here, unlike the US. It's very much your own fault for using such a service.
- rmxt 12y agoI agree that that seems like a bad choice, or at a minimum, one is choosing to do business with a company that has to internally negotiate an apparent conflict of interest. (Or, vertical integration if one has a generous take on the situation.) I am not so familiar with the layout of ISPs in the UK, but if other choices than Sky are present in a given locale, then, yes, the choice (I would make) is clear. However, how does the Sky situation differ from the Comcast (content delivery) / NBCUniversal (content production) relationship? Verizon, AT&T, and TWC, as far as I can tell, are only content delivery services. I don't have specific statistics on hand, but I assume that for some people in the United States, Comcast is (unfortunately) the only viable broadband service provider.
- djrogers 12y agoWhat are you smoking, and will you share? Most people in the US can chose from one or two of the handful of large ISPs - Comcast, TWC, AT&T, and Verizon. The Lucky ones can choose between two or three of them, many only have one real option. All four of those ISPs are content providers - hell, you the Triple-Play is a thing precisely because they all sell subscription TV services as well as internet and voice...
- tubbs 12y agoYour reply is encouraging. By the tone of the replies I've gotten it sounds like the censorship will not be applied liberally at all, but I'm glad this is not the case.
- duaneb 12y ago> Obviously sites like thepiratebay.se will be censored, This is not obvious. Visiting the site is not against the law. I don't believe it hosts any unlawful content.
- sixothree 12y agoI'm sure there are a few links on the HN front page that break one law or another.