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Thymer - a week after the launch
- dan_sim 17y agoIs it me or those numbers are impressive for "yet another project management app"? How can it be explained?
- ovi256 17y agoThese numbers are very impressive. I'm building such a tool too, with a twist. I'll tell how it goes when I'll launch.
- percept 17y agoI wonder if they're attracting more European customers. Also, could price be a factor (one user for $5, six for $25)?
- dan_sim 17y agoBut yet, the price is comparable to other products of that kind that I saw.
- megamark16 17y agoI wonder if the simple, clean design is attracting people? Or perhaps it has to do with the pricing (which as you've said is competitive) or the presentation video. If every site that I checked out had a 2 minute "Here's how our site works, in a nutshell" I might find myself staying interested a little longer, and it would probably stick with me a little bit more.
- jd 17y agoWe're happy with the numbers, but I think they can be partially explained by our long beta period. People have been asking us "when can we start paying?" since the beginning of the summer. We are entering a crowded market, but it's not as bad as you may think. A lot of the competing project management software startups take the exact same approach. So we see Basecamp and all the Basecamp clones as just a single competitor, and we deliberately take a different approach. As a result, some people will prefer their approach, and other people tell us they've been looking for something like Thymer for over ten years, and that's the kind of feedback that confirms we may have found a good niche.
- dan_sim 17y agoWhere did you talk about your product during the beta period? Did they come at you or you came to them?
- wim 17y agoI just replied in the comments section of our blog to a similar question (it's a bit long to paste here). In short: a combination of posting on some forums, using beta invites, word-of-mouth and finally contacting blogs about our private beta launch. From there on we got thousands of sign-ups, as people kept sending more invites and mentioning us on places like twitter and (small) blogs. A lot of those mentions on twitter where about our the interface, the time in which we reply to feedback :), and even our sign up form, so I guess all the small things help!
- DanielStraight 17y agoThis looks like a really cool product, but where are the TOS and privacy policy? I know not having them is the in thing now (I'm looking at you, StackOverflow), but there's no way I'm signing up for anything and giving my data without them.
- gertburger 17y agoThey are presented during the second stage of signup.
- DanielStraight 17y agoYet I would never go to the second stage without seeing them. This sounds like a paradox. ... and I just signed up without seeing any TOS, so...
- gertburger 17y agoThe links I got from the second stage(Which I had to agree to via a checkbox) are these: https://a.thymer.com/accounts/tos https://a.thymer.com/accounts/tos https://a.thymer.com/accounts/privacy https://a.thymer.com/accounts/privacy
- DanielStraight 17y agoWhy did I not get this second stage???
- jd 17y agoIt was a bit of a dilemma for us. On the one hand, we realize the importance of the TOS and Privacy policy, on the other hand, we don't like the "Hi there, thanks for visiting. Please sign our TOS" kind of welcome; it's so cold. EDIT: added links to the TOS and Privacy policy to the footer on thymer.com
- DanielStraight 17y ago
- jgrahamc 17y agoThe first pie chart is an abomination. Firstly, it's about time series data so that chart itself is not appropriate and secondly it's next to impossible to spot the difference between 10/20 and 10/21 without the figures. See http://www.jgc.org/blog/2009/08/please-dont-use-pie-charts.html http://www.jgc.org/blog/2009/08/please-dont-use-pie-charts.h...
- jd 17y agoHaha. The use of 3d pie charts was deliberate, and I know they convey almost no information (and often give a skewed impression). We would never use a pie chart for real decisions, but in this case we only cover 7 days worth of sales, which is way too little for any meaningful analysis. In this case, the 3d pie charts just look shiny :)
- joshu 17y agoStill beating you down with a copy of Tufte.
- yan 17y agoSorry for nitpicking, but using a pie chart for your first graph is grossly inappropriate. It's notoriously difficult to differentiate small differences using pie charts. If you're comparing revenue per day, a line graph or even a bar graph can convey that information a lot better.
- joshu 17y agoOr even a table. Someone should write a book or summary or whatever on How To Show Data.
- yan 17y agoAhem. http://www.edwardtufte.com/tufte/books_vdqi http://www.edwardtufte.com/tufte/books_vdqi http://www.edwardtufte.com/tufte/books_ei http://www.edwardtufte.com/tufte/books_ei http://www.edwardtufte.com/tufte/books_visex http://www.edwardtufte.com/tufte/books_visex (edit: i realize you're probably being sarcastic, but i'll just leave these links here for the unenlightened)
- joshu 17y agoYes, but also I think that there's even more basic stuff. For example, make numbers line up on the decimal point. It'd be fun to put together a one-pager.