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Why do you say Google will "never fix" the "lack of apps"? What do you call adding support for running Android apps? Clearly they are working on addressing this

Why do you say Google will "never fix" the "lack of apps"? What do you call adding support for running Android apps? Clearly they are working on addressing this, even if they're not there yet.

nsxwolf 12y ago
That's what you want to run on your laptop? Android apps?
- pg_is_a_butt 12y ago
  yeah... good point. why would people want to run software on their laptop. #IDIOT
- mdaniel 12y ago
  IMHO, these chromebooks are not laptops - they are large screen tablets with the bluetooth keyboard attached to them. So the idea, and if I recall correctly, proof of concept, of ChromeOS running Android apps isn't a large stretch. edit: I just watched the promotional video, and I was right about their interest in ChromeOS running Android apps, I was just wrong about its maturity level. The video states that ChromeOS runs "select" Android apps.
- amaks 12y ago
  Think of them as Chrome OS version of "Modern apps".
- MarkMc 12y ago
  You sound surprised. Are web apps better than Android apps?
  - cwyers 12y ago
    I think on a computer with a Core i5 and 8gb of RAM, choosing between web apps and Android apps is kind of a false choice. Windows or Linux both offer you far more applications that are built to take advantage of that form factor.
AdmiralAsshat 12y ago
Android apps will help fill some of the holes, but how likely is it that we'll ever get an Android port of the two apps I had mentioned previously, like Sublime and/or Eclipse? I suppose it's theoretically possible, but there are some programs that are, frankly, unlikely to ever leave the "desktop" OS's (i.e. Windows, OSX, Linux). Of course, I'm happy for Google to prove me wrong. I would have firmly thrown Photoshop into that category until Adobe announced they were making a ChromeOS-compatible version of it. I happen to quite like my Pixel, so if the Chrome Apps can one day let me do everything I need to do without needing to go to a Linux chroot, I'd be thrilled. Until then, however, I need Sublime (Caret is pretty good, though), I need git, etc.
- mdaniel 12y ago
  Android port of the two apps I had mentioned previously, like Sublime and/or Eclipse I believe the Eclipse folks think that Orion (http://www.eclipse.org/orion/ http://www.eclipse.org/orion/) is the path out of that jam. I'm super stoked about that project, and think it may have real legs if they don't lose focus. That is their solution to your git need, also, unless one requires a dedicated git client to do rebases or other ninjary: https://github.com/creationix/js-git https://github.com/creationix/js-git
  - jeena 12y ago
    What about the compile stack or webapplication stack like node or rails? I'm mostly just curious how this would work on such a OS.
    - mdaniel 12y ago
      I'm only speculating, and/or it could even differ per organization since in my mental model deploying Orion is only one step of many, but I would guess the two stacks you mentioned are famous for their watch-and-refresh development model. Thus, the coder presses "Save" (or perhaps "Commit", if "Save" is not atomic enough for deployment) and then either the CI system pushes out files or deploys for you or Orion pokes the development server to grab the latest files. I am 100% positive it will take some mental and maybe even logistical reorganization to switch to a cloud-based coding environment. Almost every change I can think of in a professional capacity is evaluated in a cost-benefit analysis. But today I am home sick, and thus have no access to my properly configured PyCharm, nor access to the local feature branches on my machine and it would be a bunch of ssh hoop jumping to deploy anything that I did write while at home. My interests are pretty much in descending order of that list. I would love a copy of cloud-PyCharm.
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Why do you say Google will "never fix" the "lack of apps"? What do you call adding support for running Android apps? Clearly they are working on addressing this, even if they're not there yet.

nsxwolf 12y ago

That's what you want to run on your laptop? Android apps?

pg_is_a_butt 12y ago
yeah... good point. why would people want to run software on their laptop. #IDIOT
mdaniel 12y ago
IMHO, these chromebooks are not laptops - they are large screen tablets with the bluetooth keyboard attached to them. So the idea, and if I recall correctly, proof of concept, of ChromeOS running Android apps isn't a large stretch. edit: I just watched the promotional video, and I was right about their interest in ChromeOS running Android apps, I was just wrong about its maturity level. The video states that ChromeOS runs "select" Android apps.
amaks 12y ago
Think of them as Chrome OS version of "Modern apps".
MarkMc 12y ago
You sound surprised. Are web apps better than Android apps?
- cwyers 12y ago
  I think on a computer with a Core i5 and 8gb of RAM, choosing between web apps and Android apps is kind of a false choice. Windows or Linux both offer you far more applications that are built to take advantage of that form factor.

AdmiralAsshat 12y ago

Android apps will help fill some of the holes, but how likely is it that we'll ever get an Android port of the two apps I had mentioned previously, like Sublime and/or Eclipse? I suppose it's theoretically possible, but there are some programs that are, frankly, unlikely to ever leave the "desktop" OS's (i.e. Windows, OSX, Linux). Of course, I'm happy for Google to prove me wrong. I would have firmly thrown Photoshop into that category until Adobe announced they were making a ChromeOS-compatible version of it. I happen to quite like my Pixel, so if the Chrome Apps can one day let me do everything I need to do without needing to go to a Linux chroot, I'd be thrilled. Until then, however, I need Sublime (Caret is pretty good, though), I need git, etc.

mdaniel 12y ago
Android port of the two apps I had mentioned previously, like Sublime and/or Eclipse I believe the Eclipse folks think that Orion (http://www.eclipse.org/orion/ http://www.eclipse.org/orion/) is the path out of that jam. I'm super stoked about that project, and think it may have real legs if they don't lose focus. That is their solution to your git need, also, unless one requires a dedicated git client to do rebases or other ninjary: https://github.com/creationix/js-git https://github.com/creationix/js-git
- jeena 12y ago
  What about the compile stack or webapplication stack like node or rails? I'm mostly just curious how this would work on such a OS.
  - mdaniel 12y ago
    I'm only speculating, and/or it could even differ per organization since in my mental model deploying Orion is only one step of many, but I would guess the two stacks you mentioned are famous for their watch-and-refresh development model. Thus, the coder presses "Save" (or perhaps "Commit", if "Save" is not atomic enough for deployment) and then either the CI system pushes out files or deploys for you or Orion pokes the development server to grab the latest files. I am 100% positive it will take some mental and maybe even logistical reorganization to switch to a cloud-based coding environment. Almost every change I can think of in a professional capacity is evaluated in a cost-benefit analysis. But today I am home sick, and thus have no access to my properly configured PyCharm, nor access to the local feature branches on my machine and it would be a bunch of ssh hoop jumping to deploy anything that I did write while at home. My interests are pretty much in descending order of that list. I would love a copy of cloud-PyCharm.

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