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Hm, stockholm syndrome? We live in place with better climate than California, 100 meters from sea. Our total monthly expenses for 3 member family, are probably

by jkot 12y ago

Hm, stockholm syndrome? We live in place with better climate than California, 100 meters from sea. Our total monthly expenses for 3 member family, are probably lower than most people in SV pay for rent. We rent nice house, insurances, school, etc...

Mz 12y ago
Maybe you sort of overlooked the detail that I was a military wife (stated early in my above comment). I have lived in Georgia, Texas, Kansas, Washinton state, California, and Germany. I have driven through most states in the continental U.S. I spent a month on the gulf coast in Port Aransas on my way back to California. I returned to California from Georgia on foot and accepting rides, which took roughly two months (actual travel time, not counting the month spent in Port Aransas). I am nearly 50 years old and I have been around the block a few times with my health issues, as well as all over the country. I am a LOT healthier in California than anywhere else. This is not some psychological issue and it is not some untested hypothesis. It is a pretty thoroughly tested understanding of what helps keep me healthy for less than the average $100,000 annually my medical condition typically costs.
- jkot 12y ago
  Quite oposite. I dont understand why someone who traveled world and has medical condition would settle down in California. Just try Greece for couple of months. Doctors are great here, speak english and are much cheaper.
  - Mz 12y ago
    You don't have to understand my preferences. All you need to do is try to respect my right to decide for myself what is best for me. Thinking you have a superior answer for my life after reading a couple of comments by me on the Internet and saying I should move to another country because you don't understand my choices is beyond insulting.
    - jkot 12y ago
      Just trying to help. Sorry if it sounds wrong way.
      - Mz 12y ago
        The road to hell is paved with good intentions. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StopHelpingMe http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StopHelpingMe But thank you for the apology. It's a step in the right direction.
        Lawtonfogle 12y ago
        Would you rather not have any help? No one is forcing these individuals to take the assitance we are discussing here. If they want to continue to live 11 to a house or mom and 2 kids in a garage, we aren't discussing making it illegal.
        Mz 12y ago
        I really have no idea why you seem intent on picking an argument with me. I currently don't get assistance and I am homeless, not living in overcrowded living conditions. Stating my objections to people saying "well, just move" is not remotely the same thing as advocating for any particular solution. I imagine the solutions I would propose would be things most people here would say wasn't what is under discussion. I generally frame problems differently from most other people.
    - Kalium 12y ago
      > You don't have to understand my preferences. All you need to do is try to respect my right to decide for myself what is best for me. We might respect it, but you haven't made a convincing case that we need to craft policy around financially supporting it.
      - Mz 12y ago
        Okay, let's see if this helps any: My genetic disorder costs on average $100,000 annually to keep me alive in a torturous fashion. My oldest son has the same condition. That's $200,000 annually that we "should" be spending on medical care. I am a former military wife. I am entitled to get that care through the military medical system -- which means at tax payer expense. Though, in reality, most people with my condition get a lot of that care covered by some kind of state aid and/or charitable program and the like (as well as often qualifying for disability in their 30s). Being sick all the damn time means you not only have high medical bills, you are also can't work. We have gotten ourselves well and my productivity is rising. I no longer receive food stamps and I am now well enough to do freelance work to help support us. Going someplace where the climate is good for my expensive medical condition is a financial win/win scenario, good not only for me but also for other people who would otherwise be getting stuck with the bill. If you read much about homelessness, helping solve the problems of the homeless is typically cheaper than trying to "take care" of them while controlling their lives and so on.

by jkot 12y ago

Mz 12y ago

Maybe you sort of overlooked the detail that I was a military wife (stated early in my above comment). I have lived in Georgia, Texas, Kansas, Washinton state, California, and Germany. I have driven through most states in the continental U.S. I spent a month on the gulf coast in Port Aransas on my way back to California. I returned to California from Georgia on foot and accepting rides, which took roughly two months (actual travel time, not counting the month spent in Port Aransas). I am nearly 50 years old and I have been around the block a few times with my health issues, as well as all over the country. I am a LOT healthier in California than anywhere else. This is not some psychological issue and it is not some untested hypothesis. It is a pretty thoroughly tested understanding of what helps keep me healthy for less than the average $100,000 annually my medical condition typically costs.

jkot 12y ago
Quite oposite. I dont understand why someone who traveled world and has medical condition would settle down in California. Just try Greece for couple of months. Doctors are great here, speak english and are much cheaper.
- Mz 12y ago
  You don't have to understand my preferences. All you need to do is try to respect my right to decide for myself what is best for me. Thinking you have a superior answer for my life after reading a couple of comments by me on the Internet and saying I should move to another country because you don't understand my choices is beyond insulting.
  - jkot 12y ago
    Just trying to help. Sorry if it sounds wrong way.
    - Mz 12y ago
      The road to hell is paved with good intentions. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StopHelpingMe http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StopHelpingMe But thank you for the apology. It's a step in the right direction.
      - Lawtonfogle 12y ago
        Would you rather not have any help? No one is forcing these individuals to take the assitance we are discussing here. If they want to continue to live 11 to a house or mom and 2 kids in a garage, we aren't discussing making it illegal.
        Mz 12y ago
        I really have no idea why you seem intent on picking an argument with me. I currently don't get assistance and I am homeless, not living in overcrowded living conditions. Stating my objections to people saying "well, just move" is not remotely the same thing as advocating for any particular solution. I imagine the solutions I would propose would be things most people here would say wasn't what is under discussion. I generally frame problems differently from most other people.
  - Kalium 12y ago
    > You don't have to understand my preferences. All you need to do is try to respect my right to decide for myself what is best for me. We might respect it, but you haven't made a convincing case that we need to craft policy around financially supporting it.
    - Mz 12y ago
      Okay, let's see if this helps any: My genetic disorder costs on average $100,000 annually to keep me alive in a torturous fashion. My oldest son has the same condition. That's $200,000 annually that we "should" be spending on medical care. I am a former military wife. I am entitled to get that care through the military medical system -- which means at tax payer expense. Though, in reality, most people with my condition get a lot of that care covered by some kind of state aid and/or charitable program and the like (as well as often qualifying for disability in their 30s). Being sick all the damn time means you not only have high medical bills, you are also can't work. We have gotten ourselves well and my productivity is rising. I no longer receive food stamps and I am now well enough to do freelance work to help support us. Going someplace where the climate is good for my expensive medical condition is a financial win/win scenario, good not only for me but also for other people who would otherwise be getting stuck with the bill. If you read much about homelessness, helping solve the problems of the homeless is typically cheaper than trying to "take care" of them while controlling their lives and so on.