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That's great, but even at 1GBit over Google Fiber that has still less bandwidth than an actual SSD. And of course the most important part of why you use an SSD

That's great, but even at 1GBit over Google Fiber that has still less bandwidth than an actual SSD. And of course the most important part of why you use an SSD in the first place is latency, where cloud storage is significantly slower than 1995 spinning platter hard disks. So even if I accept that the storage is in the cloud, it doesn't make sense since the hardware is clearly not there, but the software isn't either. I can't tell VMWare to use Google Drive for storage. It's a propietary data-dump, not an actual drive.

knodi123 12y ago
can you use VMWare on a chromebook?
- darcyparker 12y ago
  Inside a chroot - yes. See https://github.com/dnschneid/crouton https://github.com/dnschneid/crouton
- gnopgnip 12y ago
  The newer versions of VMware are html based instead of using the thick client. Managing them and accessing the console should work in theory. Also the Citrix receiver and Remote Desktop clients both work well on the newer chromebooks. If you mean running vms I would consider a more powerful machine with more ram and a supported operating system.
  - X-Istence 12y ago
    Too bad that VMWare still hasn't upgraded their VMWare Integration plugin to use the new plugin architecture for Chrome, and that Adobe no longer makes Flash for Linux because right now the only way I can manage my VMWare/vCenter is using the Freshplayerplugin that wraps the Pepper Flash version that comes bundled with Chrome so that I can have the VMWare integration plugin function so that I can upload/download OVF's. --- Suffice to say, the newer versions of VMWare are not HTML based. It's a full on Flash application.
    - tmosleyIII 12y ago
      I have a Dell XPS13 running Ubuntu and I use the vSphere Web Client in Chrome to manage our infrastructure.
      - X-Istence 12y ago
        Do you have the VMWare Client Integration plugin? So that you can upload/download OVF files? So that you can browse the datastore and download files?
        tmosleyIII 12y ago
        I apologize I read that last line right after I hit reply. I still cannot transfer files. I use it to manage the existing FreeBSD\Windows\Linux boxes that we currently have and have a bunch of templates that I use already.
fizzbatter 12y ago
To be fair, you're not running VMWare on the Pixel either (i don't think?). I'm skeptical that it is even a problem for just about anything you can actually run on the OS. It's a Chromebook afterall, running disk-utilizing programs is not it's design speciality. Sure, you could dump Linux on it - but i'm not sure how many would choose a Pixel over some other highend brands for a Linux machine. I believe the disk is mainly just used as a cache, for web apps (music/etc). Just about everything is stored in the "cloud". (I own a first generation Chromebook, but things may have changed)
- revelation 12y ago
  Surely a majority of people buying this won't be running the actual Chromebook system on it? What application can you even run on that system that would use 8GiB of RAM and an i5? And last I checked, you couldn't even run Skype on it, so I mean I just come up pretty much empty for the set of people willing to run Chromebook the OS and buy a 1k machine to do it. Since Chromebook is Linux under the hood, they'll presumably have the driver situation down. So this makes for a very nice Linux system.
  - dragonwriter 12y ago
    > Surely a majority of people buying this won't be running the actual Chromebook system on it? "Chromebook" is the hardware device. ChromeOS is the operating system. > What application can you even run on that system that would use 8GiB of RAM and an i5? Is there an upper limit to the RAM or CPU a browser-based application can use?
  - xnxn 12y ago
    > couldn't even run Skype on it Hangouts?
    - nfoz 12y ago
      ... would be fine until I want to talk to my mother, who uses Skype. And then it would feel strangely limiting to not be able to do that on my $999 computer.

knodi123 12y ago

can you use VMWare on a chromebook?

darcyparker 12y ago
Inside a chroot - yes. See https://github.com/dnschneid/crouton https://github.com/dnschneid/crouton
gnopgnip 12y ago
The newer versions of VMware are html based instead of using the thick client. Managing them and accessing the console should work in theory. Also the Citrix receiver and Remote Desktop clients both work well on the newer chromebooks. If you mean running vms I would consider a more powerful machine with more ram and a supported operating system.
- X-Istence 12y ago
  Too bad that VMWare still hasn't upgraded their VMWare Integration plugin to use the new plugin architecture for Chrome, and that Adobe no longer makes Flash for Linux because right now the only way I can manage my VMWare/vCenter is using the Freshplayerplugin that wraps the Pepper Flash version that comes bundled with Chrome so that I can have the VMWare integration plugin function so that I can upload/download OVF's. --- Suffice to say, the newer versions of VMWare are not HTML based. It's a full on Flash application.
  - tmosleyIII 12y ago
    I have a Dell XPS13 running Ubuntu and I use the vSphere Web Client in Chrome to manage our infrastructure.
    - X-Istence 12y ago
      Do you have the VMWare Client Integration plugin? So that you can upload/download OVF files? So that you can browse the datastore and download files?
      - tmosleyIII 12y ago
        I apologize I read that last line right after I hit reply. I still cannot transfer files. I use it to manage the existing FreeBSD\Windows\Linux boxes that we currently have and have a bunch of templates that I use already.

fizzbatter 12y ago

To be fair, you're not running VMWare on the Pixel either (i don't think?). I'm skeptical that it is even a problem for just about anything you can actually run on the OS. It's a Chromebook afterall, running disk-utilizing programs is not it's design speciality. Sure, you could dump Linux on it - but i'm not sure how many would choose a Pixel over some other highend brands for a Linux machine. I believe the disk is mainly just used as a cache, for web apps (music/etc). Just about everything is stored in the "cloud". (I own a first generation Chromebook, but things may have changed)

revelation 12y ago
Surely a majority of people buying this won't be running the actual Chromebook system on it? What application can you even run on that system that would use 8GiB of RAM and an i5? And last I checked, you couldn't even run Skype on it, so I mean I just come up pretty much empty for the set of people willing to run Chromebook the OS and buy a 1k machine to do it. Since Chromebook is Linux under the hood, they'll presumably have the driver situation down. So this makes for a very nice Linux system.
- dragonwriter 12y ago
  > Surely a majority of people buying this won't be running the actual Chromebook system on it? "Chromebook" is the hardware device. ChromeOS is the operating system. > What application can you even run on that system that would use 8GiB of RAM and an i5? Is there an upper limit to the RAM or CPU a browser-based application can use?
- xnxn 12y ago
  > couldn't even run Skype on it Hangouts?
  - nfoz 12y ago
    ... would be fine until I want to talk to my mother, who uses Skype. And then it would feel strangely limiting to not be able to do that on my $999 computer.