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Considering "wind speeds as high as 291 km/h" I would think that one of the greatest challenges of the Google Loon project is making sure there is always a ball

Considering "wind speeds as high as 291 km/h" I would think that one of the greatest challenges of the Google Loon project is making sure there is always a balloon above a targeted coverage area. I would wager that unless there are an unbelievable number of balloons deployed, the coverage would be intermittent.

josefresco 12y ago
Confusing because in their FAQ they state the following: "We are flying in the stratosphere well above commercial air traffic and weather events, at around 18 - 27 km or 60,000 - 90,000 feet. " I wonder if the "around the world" flight was done under different conditions?
- mrinterweb 12y ago
  Wind speeds in the upper atmosphere can be very fast. These balloons will not be stationary. Based on my limited knowledge of the project, the only way they could have consistent coverage would be to have evenly spaced balloons around the Earth. That assumes that wind currents would cause the balloons to travel around the Earth in a dependable pattern. Considering the circumference of the Earth 40,008km and 80km coverage diameter, 40008 / 80 = 500 balloons would be required at minimum if all the balloons traveled at the same speed and in a dependable pattern. I would imagine the wind currents the balloons would travel on would be greater than the Earth's circumference, so more than 500 balloons would be required. Also, I doubt the balloons could maintain a perfect 80km spacing. I can think of other factors that would make dependable coverage difficult.
  - coderzach 12y ago
    Here's a wikipedia article explaining it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geostationary_balloon_satellite http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geostationary_balloon_satellite
    - seanflyon 12y ago
      These balloons will not be geostationary.
      - zo1 12y ago
        At least read the link that was posted? Because otherwise, you miss parts like this from the linked article: "This is the ideal height because Air density is 1/10th of what it is at Sea level. This makes the wind at these altitudes 10 times less potent."
        teraflop 12y ago
        No, independent of whether it's possible to make a geostationary balloon, Google's balloons are not going to be stationary. They are steered purely by changing altitude and riding high-altitude winds.
        zo1 12y ago
        Sure, except, the context of this sub-thread was started by someone claiming that winds in the upper atmosphere "can be very fast." So the link was to correct/explain to them, not to claim that the Google Balloons would be stationary.
        mrinterweb 12y ago
        Stratospheric wind speeds are very fast. Look it up if you don't believe me. I was just basing this from a quote in the original article "wind speeds as high as 291 km/h".
  - mrinterweb 12y ago
    @coderzach, I've read other articles on Google Loon and a number of the articles mention the balloons moving around the Earth. I have not ready anything about the balloons being geostationary. If you have, please share.

josefresco 12y ago

Confusing because in their FAQ they state the following: "We are flying in the stratosphere well above commercial air traffic and weather events, at around 18 - 27 km or 60,000 - 90,000 feet. " I wonder if the "around the world" flight was done under different conditions?

mrinterweb 12y ago
Wind speeds in the upper atmosphere can be very fast. These balloons will not be stationary. Based on my limited knowledge of the project, the only way they could have consistent coverage would be to have evenly spaced balloons around the Earth. That assumes that wind currents would cause the balloons to travel around the Earth in a dependable pattern. Considering the circumference of the Earth 40,008km and 80km coverage diameter, 40008 / 80 = 500 balloons would be required at minimum if all the balloons traveled at the same speed and in a dependable pattern. I would imagine the wind currents the balloons would travel on would be greater than the Earth's circumference, so more than 500 balloons would be required. Also, I doubt the balloons could maintain a perfect 80km spacing. I can think of other factors that would make dependable coverage difficult.
- coderzach 12y ago
  Here's a wikipedia article explaining it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geostationary_balloon_satellite http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geostationary_balloon_satellite
  - seanflyon 12y ago
    These balloons will not be geostationary.
    - zo1 12y ago
      At least read the link that was posted? Because otherwise, you miss parts like this from the linked article: "This is the ideal height because Air density is 1/10th of what it is at Sea level. This makes the wind at these altitudes 10 times less potent."
      - teraflop 12y ago
        No, independent of whether it's possible to make a geostationary balloon, Google's balloons are not going to be stationary. They are steered purely by changing altitude and riding high-altitude winds.
        zo1 12y ago
        Sure, except, the context of this sub-thread was started by someone claiming that winds in the upper atmosphere "can be very fast." So the link was to correct/explain to them, not to claim that the Google Balloons would be stationary.
        mrinterweb 12y ago
        Stratospheric wind speeds are very fast. Look it up if you don't believe me. I was just basing this from a quote in the original article "wind speeds as high as 291 km/h".
- mrinterweb 12y ago
  @coderzach, I've read other articles on Google Loon and a number of the articles mention the balloons moving around the Earth. I have not ready anything about the balloons being geostationary. If you have, please share.