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I guess all the "everyone must code" propaganda, to lower labor prices by increasing supply, is working.

by mcantelon 12y ago

patio11 12y ago
For definitions of "working" which include "We have almost recovered to the number of CS degrees issued in 1985."
- iak8god 12y ago
  Tangential, but I'm curious: your comment seems to imply that that are now fewer CS degrees issued per year than in 1985. Is that what you meant? Can you point me to the numbers?
  - mcantelon 12y ago
    Yeah, that seems very unlikely. The population was lower, tech wasn't mainstream, and being a nerd was the opposite of fashionable.
    - astrange 12y ago
      Being an accountant, civil engineer, or construction crew has never been fashionable, but people have always signed up to do it anyway.
  - patio11 12y ago
    Seems my joke is out of date: we've actually hit the 1985 number again! Whee! Granted total degrees doubled over the interval and CS is virtually flat but whee! http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d14/tables/dt14_322.10.asp http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d14/tables/dt14_322.10.as...
    - iak8god 12y ago
      Thanks. I'm surprised to see that computer and information sciences and engineering have dropped quite a bit since then as the percentage of degrees.
      - tsotha 12y ago
        But has it dropped as a percentage of high school graduates? My impression is a lot of people who wouldn't have been able to get in to a university twenty years ago are going now, but they're getting the kinds of degrees you'd expect for people who barely made it in.
    - logfromblammo 12y ago
      Read the footnote. NOTE: Data through 1990-91 are for institutions of higher education, while later data are for postsecondary institutions that participate in Title IV federal financial aid programs. There's a definition change in there, and we can't be certain whether we can meaningfully compare the latest year of data with 1985--the curse of using government-published statistics.

I guess all the "everyone must code" propaganda, to lower labor prices by increasing supply, is working.

patio11 12y ago

For definitions of "working" which include "We have almost recovered to the number of CS degrees issued in 1985."

iak8god 12y ago
Tangential, but I'm curious: your comment seems to imply that that are now fewer CS degrees issued per year than in 1985. Is that what you meant? Can you point me to the numbers?
- mcantelon 12y ago
  Yeah, that seems very unlikely. The population was lower, tech wasn't mainstream, and being a nerd was the opposite of fashionable.
  - astrange 12y ago
    Being an accountant, civil engineer, or construction crew has never been fashionable, but people have always signed up to do it anyway.
- patio11 12y ago
  Seems my joke is out of date: we've actually hit the 1985 number again! Whee! Granted total degrees doubled over the interval and CS is virtually flat but whee! http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d14/tables/dt14_322.10.asp http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d14/tables/dt14_322.10.as...
  - iak8god 12y ago
    Thanks. I'm surprised to see that computer and information sciences and engineering have dropped quite a bit since then as the percentage of degrees.
    - tsotha 12y ago
      But has it dropped as a percentage of high school graduates? My impression is a lot of people who wouldn't have been able to get in to a university twenty years ago are going now, but they're getting the kinds of degrees you'd expect for people who barely made it in.
  - logfromblammo 12y ago
    Read the footnote. NOTE: Data through 1990-91 are for institutions of higher education, while later data are for postsecondary institutions that participate in Title IV federal financial aid programs. There's a definition change in there, and we can't be certain whether we can meaningfully compare the latest year of data with 1985--the curse of using government-published statistics.