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He didn't advocate raising kids in a junkyard, he said he'd find a junkyard preferable to a clean prison with a TV. He never said either was a desirable scenari

by dunstad 17y ago

He didn't advocate raising kids in a junkyard, he said he'd find a junkyard preferable to a clean prison with a TV. He never said either was a desirable scenario. "I'd love to have a couple kids, but I won't do it without a physical location that's owned and paid for, and without someone besides myself to help out the mother, and without the means to dodge the institutions, whether through excellent legal help or through the institutions breaking down." If you're going to namecall, at least do it based on fact.

tptacek 17y ago
You're purposely misreading him, and you managed to misquote a passage that I actually quoted in this very thread --- he never said "prison". He's envisioning "dodging the authorities" because they demand that he provide medical care, secure shelter, and education. He'd love to have a couple kids and raise them in a junkyard. He can't, because it's illegal to do so. So, because he doesn't have the wherewithal to handle the institutional friction involved in raising children as crypto-homeless vagabonds, he won't do it. What a prince.
- goosefraba19 17y ago
  You're purposely misreading him too. He never said "junkyard". If he wanted to avoid the authorities, I'm sure he could find somewhere to do it, and probably living in a reasonable environment too. Perhaps he's enjoying his freedom too much to have kids right now.
- Guy 17y ago
  Oh, come on. He is not planning on raising kids in a junkyard. How ridiculous can you get? He said he'd rather live in an abandoned house or junkyard or shack if he was a toddler. A toddler would rather eat lots of candy than lots of vegetables. Toddlers are not known for well-thought out plans. I mean, seriously, do you really think that's what he wants? Or do you think it makes for a really good strawman to beat up? But boy, I know I'd rather have been raised in a junkyard. I was raised in a prison with a television. I really wish I could get my childhood back.

by dunstad 17y ago

tptacek 17y ago

You're purposely misreading him, and you managed to misquote a passage that I actually quoted in this very thread --- he never said "prison". He's envisioning "dodging the authorities" because they demand that he provide medical care, secure shelter, and education. He'd love to have a couple kids and raise them in a junkyard. He can't, because it's illegal to do so. So, because he doesn't have the wherewithal to handle the institutional friction involved in raising children as crypto-homeless vagabonds, he won't do it. What a prince.

goosefraba19 17y ago
You're purposely misreading him too. He never said "junkyard". If he wanted to avoid the authorities, I'm sure he could find somewhere to do it, and probably living in a reasonable environment too. Perhaps he's enjoying his freedom too much to have kids right now.
Guy 17y ago
Oh, come on. He is not planning on raising kids in a junkyard. How ridiculous can you get? He said he'd rather live in an abandoned house or junkyard or shack if he was a toddler. A toddler would rather eat lots of candy than lots of vegetables. Toddlers are not known for well-thought out plans. I mean, seriously, do you really think that's what he wants? Or do you think it makes for a really good strawman to beat up? But boy, I know I'd rather have been raised in a junkyard. I was raised in a prison with a television. I really wish I could get my childhood back.