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I think you got it backwards. The "dongle thing" is about a feminist bully, not about two guys making a harmless joke. The consensus is that Adria was the probl
by MrBuddyCasino 12y ago
I think you got it backwards. The "dongle thing" is about a feminist bully, not about two guys making a harmless joke. The consensus is that Adria was the problem here, how anyone could come to a different conclusion is beyond me.
- neilk 12y agoI'm willing to stack my geek credentials against anyone, and I'm not in your consensus. Lots of people aren't. You might be inside a filter bubble. I don't agree with what Adria did, in that she shamed these guys on Twitter, and furthermore, she's doubled down on some conspiracy theories afterwards. And maybe she has an itchy trigger finger on what might constitute a hostile environment. But, the issue of hostile environments -- as created through a shared culture of sexualized talk -- that's real. The best intervention I think, would have been to talk to those guys. If she didn't feel comfortable confronting them, she was also justified in taking it to the PyCon organizers.
- ehaliewicz2 12y agoIf I remember correctly, she made a joke about male genitalia on twitter just a few days beforehand.
- Cthulhu_ 12y agoAdria just made a tweet, repeating their words; the real problem was the internet hordes on both sides of the debate that went at all parties involved's throats. That was the real escalation. The problem is the huge audience, where one tweet can reach millions of people, each with their own opinion and the ability to voice it instantly, within seconds. It's dangerous, really.