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By any interpretation, responding to a complaint that she was being retaliated against and a request for clearer HR policies regarding this with a suggestion th

by deveac 12y ago

By any interpretation, responding to a complaint that she was being retaliated against and a request for clearer HR policies regarding this with a suggestion that she and the man who was retaliating against her could have a good life though they probably wouldn't be able to work together...well that's damning enough. You don't need to suss out whether he was actually suggesting she or he quit for this to be the case.

trose 12y ago
EXACTLY. The _only_ appropriate response to an employee approaching you with a harassment complaint and asking for HR intervention would be to get a representative (sounds like they didnt have one) and a lawyer involved immediately. Followed by asking if she needs anything to continue working while feeling safe. What in the world was going through this guy's head?
- zone411 12y ago
  But she did not complain about harassment at that time. Based on Techcrunch's article, she was complaining about Nazre making her work more difficult by cutting her out of key work discussions and taking her out of e-mail threads.
  - jellicle 12y ago
    And why was Nazre doing that?
    - zone411 12y ago
      How about you tell me if you have a point to make?
    - tomp 12y ago
      They were in love/dating/having sex, then they broke up. It's pretty easy to see why he was upset. According to the saying, "don't shit where you eat", both of them could have known better before starting their relationship.
  - kaitai 12y ago
    How is that not harassment?
  - deveac 12y ago
    You just detailed the harassment.
zone411 12y ago
You're basing your "damning enough" opinion on Pao's statements when questioned by her own attorney. But Lane's testimony was: "I thought that it should be investigated, I thought that it should be responded to, but that it was up to her," which while not great, seems quite less damning. The grandparent also called it "credible," however when Pao was cross-examined about whether she asked if Kleiner maintained a policy that prohibited discrimination or harassment, she said "yes" on the stand and "no" in deposition, making her seem less than credible regarding asking for clearer HR policies in this incident.

by deveac 12y ago

trose 12y ago

EXACTLY. The _only_ appropriate response to an employee approaching you with a harassment complaint and asking for HR intervention would be to get a representative (sounds like they didnt have one) and a lawyer involved immediately. Followed by asking if she needs anything to continue working while feeling safe. What in the world was going through this guy's head?

zone411 12y ago
But she did not complain about harassment at that time. Based on Techcrunch's article, she was complaining about Nazre making her work more difficult by cutting her out of key work discussions and taking her out of e-mail threads.
- jellicle 12y ago
  And why was Nazre doing that?
  - zone411 12y ago
    How about you tell me if you have a point to make?
  - tomp 12y ago
    They were in love/dating/having sex, then they broke up. It's pretty easy to see why he was upset. According to the saying, "don't shit where you eat", both of them could have known better before starting their relationship.
- kaitai 12y ago
  How is that not harassment?
- deveac 12y ago
  You just detailed the harassment.

zone411 12y ago

You're basing your "damning enough" opinion on Pao's statements when questioned by her own attorney. But Lane's testimony was: "I thought that it should be investigated, I thought that it should be responded to, but that it was up to her," which while not great, seems quite less damning. The grandparent also called it "credible," however when Pao was cross-examined about whether she asked if Kleiner maintained a policy that prohibited discrimination or harassment, she said "yes" on the stand and "no" in deposition, making her seem less than credible regarding asking for clearer HR policies in this incident.