it is true. the analogy i like to use (which is quite belittling to men i guess, and very extreme) is being burned by fire. if you put your hand in fire, you a

it is true. the analogy i like to use (which is quite belittling to men i guess, and very extreme) is being burned by fire. if you put your hand in fire, you are the victim, but its still your fault when you get burned. the fire isn't going to go cold whatever your intent behind putting your hand in it. in the same way men will look at exposed cleavage no matter why you are wearing the low cut top. that's just nature, and blaming men for their natural behaviour is no better than blaming the fire for being hot. the best defence is to not even go there, don't put your hand in fires and don't show your cleavage... i shouldn't have to disregard such straightforward logic because the person i am talking to is a woman. imo that is demeaning to women... its a dangerous position to take, but for all of the wrong reasons. (and of course, men can train themselves to not look, and especially not to stare at boobs - the fire can not train itself to be cold)