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Your comment is so unnecessarily cynical it made me giggle. You don't think like that in real life hopefully.

swang 12y ago
If you were not on the web from ~1998-2004, and then had to dig out of the glut of crap that IE4 dumped behind it from 2005-Now, you probably think this is cynical. It's merely considering the historical record of what happens when you allow one company to control the web. Why do people want an open web? Because if you allow one entity to gain too much influence, you become locked into their whims rather than what is best for the web.
- stupidcar 12y ago
  I was on the web ~1998-2004, and I still think you're being cynical, and are just flat wrong on certain points: - V8 (and Chrome, via Chromium) is an open source project: https://github.com/v8/v8-git-mirror https://github.com/v8/v8-git-mirror . Try doing a search for 'use strong' in the V8 source and you will find that the code for this proposal is already open source, not "closed source at the moment". - Chrome is nowhere near the kind of market dominance that IE once enjoyed (> 90%), and there is no rational prospect of it ever reaching it, unless you believe Windows, OS X and iOS are about to disappear. Thus they will never enjoy the monopoly necessary to unilaterally introduce proprietary features. - Chrome auto-updates. In fact, it was the first mainstream browser to adopt this "evergreen" model (since adopted by Firefox and IE). This means that there are no concerns about maintaining backwards compatibility with "some version" of Chrome.
  - themartorana 12y ago
    > no concerns about maintaining backwards compatibility Actually, one of the reasons old IE versions persisted forever is because the enterprise rarely updates. Although I doubt there are many out there that use Chrome at all, they would most certainly block auto-updating, much as they used to block Windows Service Packs until they could be tested in-house - no matter how severe the vulnerabilities they patched.

swang 12y ago

If you were not on the web from ~1998-2004, and then had to dig out of the glut of crap that IE4 dumped behind it from 2005-Now, you probably think this is cynical. It's merely considering the historical record of what happens when you allow one company to control the web. Why do people want an open web? Because if you allow one entity to gain too much influence, you become locked into their whims rather than what is best for the web.

stupidcar 12y ago
I was on the web ~1998-2004, and I still think you're being cynical, and are just flat wrong on certain points: - V8 (and Chrome, via Chromium) is an open source project: https://github.com/v8/v8-git-mirror https://github.com/v8/v8-git-mirror . Try doing a search for 'use strong' in the V8 source and you will find that the code for this proposal is already open source, not "closed source at the moment". - Chrome is nowhere near the kind of market dominance that IE once enjoyed (> 90%), and there is no rational prospect of it ever reaching it, unless you believe Windows, OS X and iOS are about to disappear. Thus they will never enjoy the monopoly necessary to unilaterally introduce proprietary features. - Chrome auto-updates. In fact, it was the first mainstream browser to adopt this "evergreen" model (since adopted by Firefox and IE). This means that there are no concerns about maintaining backwards compatibility with "some version" of Chrome.
- themartorana 12y ago
  > no concerns about maintaining backwards compatibility Actually, one of the reasons old IE versions persisted forever is because the enterprise rarely updates. Although I doubt there are many out there that use Chrome at all, they would most certainly block auto-updating, much as they used to block Windows Service Packs until they could be tested in-house - no matter how severe the vulnerabilities they patched.