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Or, in other words, how much will you deprive your own society of and contribute to American society, assuring our domination and your society's dependence and

by wahsd 12y ago

Or, in other words, how much will you deprive your own society of and contribute to American society, assuring our domination and your society's dependence and subjugation.

throwaway344 12y ago
Human beings are not property of their governments. They have a right to live, and move to a place that they choose. Brain drain might be a problem, but the correct approach is to make the drained country a better place to live, not to prohibit escape.
- wahsd 12y ago
  I didn't say government, I said society. It's sad that people don't realize that or value the contributions they could make to their societies, to lift their cultures and countries, instead of compounding ever more advantages. It's brain drain. It's rather supremacist in nature too and not unlike colonialism.
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stupidcar 12y ago
Ehhhh, my society's pretty lame anyway.
fennecfoxen 12y ago
That worked so well for people behind the Iron Curtain.
jafaku 12y ago
I'm not planning on going to America because a) I'm more interested in seeing other places (sorry) and b) It's impossible anyway. But let me tell you something: When I leave, I won't be depriving "my own society" (whatever that means) of anything, because that's how much value I can produce here, with all the corruption and bureaucratic obstacles.
- wahsd 12y ago
  And it will remain so because all those who could possibly affect change are taking the easy road to America and compounding our returns and advantages.
  - kosievdmerwe 12y ago
    How easily we tell other people to martyr themselves for our ideals.
nraynaud 12y ago
Frankly I'm only thinking about moving to the US because my girlfriend is American. She has a lot of debt from her studies and she works in education, and education pays a lot mainly in the US. Basically she needs to rip some other students off to pay her debt, it's a pyramid (I hope she doesn't red this). But I'm not attached to my country, the country I was born in is an accident, they are conservative and short sighted, I don't care leaving (albeit, I don't think the US is really the best place to live).

by wahsd 12y ago

Or, in other words, how much will you deprive your own society of and contribute to American society, assuring our domination and your society's dependence and subjugation.

throwaway344 12y ago

Human beings are not property of their governments. They have a right to live, and move to a place that they choose. Brain drain might be a problem, but the correct approach is to make the drained country a better place to live, not to prohibit escape.

wahsd 12y ago
I didn't say government, I said society. It's sad that people don't realize that or value the contributions they could make to their societies, to lift their cultures and countries, instead of compounding ever more advantages. It's brain drain. It's rather supremacist in nature too and not unlike colonialism.
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stupidcar 12y ago

Ehhhh, my society's pretty lame anyway.

fennecfoxen 12y ago

That worked so well for people behind the Iron Curtain.

jafaku 12y ago

I'm not planning on going to America because a) I'm more interested in seeing other places (sorry) and b) It's impossible anyway. But let me tell you something: When I leave, I won't be depriving "my own society" (whatever that means) of anything, because that's how much value I can produce here, with all the corruption and bureaucratic obstacles.

wahsd 12y ago
And it will remain so because all those who could possibly affect change are taking the easy road to America and compounding our returns and advantages.
- kosievdmerwe 12y ago
  How easily we tell other people to martyr themselves for our ideals.

nraynaud 12y ago

Frankly I'm only thinking about moving to the US because my girlfriend is American. She has a lot of debt from her studies and she works in education, and education pays a lot mainly in the US. Basically she needs to rip some other students off to pay her debt, it's a pyramid (I hope she doesn't red this). But I'm not attached to my country, the country I was born in is an accident, they are conservative and short sighted, I don't care leaving (albeit, I don't think the US is really the best place to live).