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What's your chance of getting a U.S. work visa? Find out with BorderScore
- nsnick 12y agoWhy does this take 24 hours?
- mattmanser 12y agoI'm gonna take a stab in the dark and guess it's an MVP where they manually assess your skills. Also, this is a YC company and it looks like this is a pivot or alternatively they're trying to find more candidates for clients, who then pay them a fee to sort out the visa?
- jrichards27 12y agoThat's somewhat correct, although we have a bunch of stuff on the back-end that we're not quite ready to talk about yet :) Not a pivot, just an experiment to see how people respond. Give it a whirl and let us/me know!
- theGREENsuit 12y agoMore than happy to give it a whirl. Can you elaborate on what you do with the data that's given? Do you store it permanently, how long do you keep it, who else gets to have it?
- chralieboy 12y agoThey use it to generate leads for products, store it indefinitely, and will ask permission before sharing it.
- JonRB 12y agoI like to think you use some sort of machine learning - You feed it the first few profiles which you do by hand to give the learning some data to start on, then let the machine do its magic.
- klipt 12y agoHow are you dealing with the fact that even with a sponsor, there's only a 1 in 2-3 (unknown) chance that someone will actually get through the H1-B lottery this year?
- nwenzel 12y agoHow does 24 hours and no cost compare to the time and cost without this utility? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3dYS7PcAG4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3dYS7PcAG4 (nsfw-language: Louis CK bit)
- nwenzel 12y agoThis is actually helpful on the employer side too. Makes initial conversations with potential hires easier because we both get a sense of whether it's worth investing more time into something that may not even be a possibility.
- yousifa 12y agoHopefully more people find out about this to bring in more talent
- Dewie 12y agoMaybe if a lot of talent moves from where I am to the US, I can negotiate higher prices where I already am. Sounds like a plan. :)
- wahsd 12y agoOr, in other words, how much will you deprive your own society of and contribute to American society, assuring our domination and your society's dependence and subjugation.
- throwaway344 12y agoHuman beings are not property of their governments. They have a right to live, and move to a place that they choose. Brain drain might be a problem, but the correct approach is to make the drained country a better place to live, not to prohibit escape.
- wahsd 12y agoI didn't say government, I said society. It's sad that people don't realize that or value the contributions they could make to their societies, to lift their cultures and countries, instead of compounding ever more advantages. It's brain drain. It's rather supremacist in nature too and not unlike colonialism.
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- stupidcar 12y agoEhhhh, my society's pretty lame anyway.
- fennecfoxen 12y agoThat worked so well for people behind the Iron Curtain.
- jafaku 12y agoI'm not planning on going to America because a) I'm more interested in seeing other places (sorry) and b) It's impossible anyway. But let me tell you something: When I leave, I won't be depriving "my own society" (whatever that means) of anything, because that's how much value I can produce here, with all the corruption and bureaucratic obstacles.
- pranade 12y agoSuper helpful analysis, both from an employer perspective and for the employee -- we need more transparency on this
- drglitch 12y agoHow accurate is this information, ultimately? i.e: - Are lawyer fees counted in? - Different advertising expenses for having public ads up for position as per requirement of H1B petition process? - Internal HR costs (which run large for larger corps)? - What's the ultimate revenue model?
- tg3 12y ago- Yes, legal fees are counted - this includes government filing fees (you may be referring to PERM advertising, which is part of the Green Card process) - no - this is an experiment from the team at Teleborder.com, which is a complete global mobility platform
- largote 12y agoFor Software Engineers, citizens from these 4 countries can get work Visas other than an H1-B: Canada Mexico Singapore Chile The first two on the TN Visa, and the latter two on the H1-B1 Visa, the cap has never been reached on either.
- lazaroclapp 12y agoTrue, but keep in mind TN Visas are designed for temporary work. They need to be renewed every 3 years, even for the same employer, and offer no path towards permanent residence. So, they can be used for people doing a work exchange for a company that has branches in Canada/Mexico and the U.S., or as a bridge when the H1-B cap has been hit for the current/next year. They don't really substitute an H1-B in the mid/long term.
- largote 12y agoThe H1-B also need to be renewed (even for the same employer), except it's on a 4 year period IIRC. Also, the TN can be renewed indefinitely, whereas the H1-B can only be renewed so many times before you're "forced" into a Green Card. It can also be used, like you mentioned, as a bridge to start working immediately without having to wait for H1-B openings the be ready.
- WildUtah 12y ago"temporary work. They need to be renewed every 3 years, even for the same employer, and offer no path towards permanent residence." But TNs are renewable infinitely. You did need to call yourself a systems analyst. Systems analyst was on the list of approved TN jobs but computer programmer was excluded, even though they're the same thing. I believe software engineer was recently added even though that is also the exact same thing as a computer programmer or systems analyst. The Dept of Labor has a dozen or more objectively indistinguishable words for programmer. There is a route to permanent residence, of course. You can either just keep renewing or you can marry an American. You probably can't afford to retire in the Bay Area as a programmer anyway if your spouse isn't insisting so you might as well return home when you're done working. Canada and Mexico are nice places to go home to at the end of a career.
- jheriko 12y agomy personal chances seem to be about zero. at least without spending a lot of time, money and effort. when i last applied it rapidly descended into a process that felt like bribery and moving goalposts. that being said, i in no way blame america for making it hard for people of arab descent who spent any serious amount of time immersed in that culture. i would do the same. (i /assume/ that was the problem - i may well be wrong)
- xeromal 12y agoThat's too bad man. :(
- aurelifornia 12y agoThis is just so depressing.
- jheriko 12y agoi am making assumptions, i could very well be wrong. the form i had to fill out riddled with questions about arab descent made me skeptical... it might have been more to do with my past, having a minor criminal record as a child or my loud and public controversial nature... or anything else that they could determine from my UK passport number and other details i provided when I initially applied for an ESTA (you don't normally need a visa as a UK citizen).
- petercooper 12y ago(you don't normally need a visa as a UK citizen) A criminal record means one would though (the US doesn't recognize "spent" convictions) or even an arrest for a crime involving "moral turpitude". The rules are incredibly harsh.
- jheriko 12y agoyes, although it does mention in the paperwork that minor offences as a child do not normally stop a visa application. it is also abundantly clear that this is a problem that prevents using the ESTA system to travel. this is part of why i feel i should stress that i am making assumptions, and not hide from any other issues that i may have there... there is a certain amount of bitterness from having gone through the process and given up because it took so long, required so much effort and cost too much money.
- goyalankit 12y agoIs it safe? Do you store the data?
- discordance 12y agoI would like a follow up on this as there is no privacy statement on your site.
- utunga 12y agoThis might be relevant if people were asked to oAuth approve something to get there report - but they only asked for my LinkedIn profile which means anything they got from there is public info already. Bit suprised by that to be honest.. if this goes viral they just lost the opportunity to get a ton of oAuth Authorizations to LinkedIn which could have been v useful to them down the line for further data scraping (I would imagine). The fact that they didn't suggests that they have their heads on the right side of your privacy concerns.
- bluerobotcat 12y agoI have a PhD in philosophy (with a dissertation on symbolic logic). When I was interviewing in the US, I was told repeatedly that it would impossible for me to get an H1B visa for an IT job because my degree is not in science or engineering. BorderScore doesn't seem to take this sort of thing into account, unless I'm missing something.
- jy1 12y agoThey ask for a LI profile don't they?
- bluerobotcat 12y agoThat's true. At the time I was a fresh graduate so they wouldn't have been able to tell from my LinkedIn profile though. I requested a report and I will post an update here when I get it.
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- untog 12y agoI was in the same situation and ended up still getting one as six years of work experience counted as equivalent to a degree, or something along those lines. I'd try the service to see if it takes that into account but I deleted my LinkedIn account a long time ago.
- bluerobotcat 12y agoI got the following assessment: The short version is that you can start working in the U.S. within 6 weeks, and stay for at least 2 years with: - a 82% chance of success - $2,183.13/year cost to sponsor you I suspect this is wrong. Previously I was also told that the waiting period could easily be up to 9 months.
- scient 12y agoThere is a ton of misinformation out there related to different visas. The time spent waiting depends on the type of visa you are after, as does the costs and requirements involved. I personally got a H1B visa paperwork done within a week or two, got the positive answer like a month after submitting my request (and note that the submission times here are fixed, it can only be done once a year during a specific timeframe), and was working in the US within days of the visa allowing it. Just to clarify the timeline - you apply in April, get a response in May, and can start working in October.
- haosdent 12y agoI am a Chinese. My linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/haosdent https://www.linkedin.com/in/haosdent . But it seems hard to get a H1B visa at this time....
- christyho 12y agoThis is, simply, awesome!