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1) It's true. I think a lot of that is training. Most design programs don't promote an entrepreneur track. There really is nothing like YC or even the constella

1) It's true. I think a lot of that is training. Most design programs don't promote an entrepreneur track. There really is nothing like YC or even the constellation of tech bloggers who can share the path with young designers. 2) Exactly. It is like Steve Jobs quote "We don't have good language to talk about this kind of thing. In most people's vocabularies, design means veneer. It's interior decorating. It's the fabric of the curtains and the sofa. But to me, nothing could be further from the meaning of design. Design is the fundamental soul of a man-made creation that ends up expressing itself in successive outer layers of the product or service. The iMac is not just the colour or translucence or the shape of the shell. The essence of the iMac is to be the finest possible consumer computer in which each element plays together."

dasil003 17y ago
I agree except I would say that you're confusing vision with design. The core of a successful product is the vision. The design of the product is the realization of that vision. Someone with no technical or design skills can have a very strong vision, and a good designer can work with that person to bring out a superb product even if the designer has no personal vision or even an investment in the final product. In that way, visionary is to designer as designer is to engineer.
- replicatorblog 17y ago
  You are right. designers can have vision, engineers can as well. A good product manager can do the same. I was curious about designers because they tend to come from more blended liberal arts backgrounds that has a more human focus. In addition they have technical skills to be able to produce assets that are useful at the early stage vs. a product manager who tends to join later in the cycle.
wgj 17y ago
"In most people's vocabularies, design means veneer." That on its own is a great one-liner.

dasil003 17y ago

I agree except I would say that you're confusing vision with design. The core of a successful product is the vision. The design of the product is the realization of that vision. Someone with no technical or design skills can have a very strong vision, and a good designer can work with that person to bring out a superb product even if the designer has no personal vision or even an investment in the final product. In that way, visionary is to designer as designer is to engineer.

replicatorblog 17y ago
You are right. designers can have vision, engineers can as well. A good product manager can do the same. I was curious about designers because they tend to come from more blended liberal arts backgrounds that has a more human focus. In addition they have technical skills to be able to produce assets that are useful at the early stage vs. a product manager who tends to join later in the cycle.

wgj 17y ago

"In most people's vocabularies, design means veneer." That on its own is a great one-liner.