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It doesn't really make sense to me to pay more than $50 a month for something like this. For under $120 you can get an AMD Athlon X2 5000+ (2.2 GHz dual core) a

It doesn't really make sense to me to pay more than $50 a month for something like this. For under $120 you can get an AMD Athlon X2 5000+ (2.2 GHz dual core) and a solid matching motherboard on Newegg. Throw in some old hard drives RAIDed together (I personally had about 2 TB laying around that I RAID 1+0'd together) and you have a server that will fill all of your needs WAY into the future. Once your service starts catching on and you need better than 95% uptime, convert your residential cable Internet service (what, like $40/mo or so?) into a $100 (?) business line (better upload speed and reliability), and you are good to go. With hardware and bandwidth being so cheap these days, why are we still so hung up on VPS solutions? Personally-hosted solutions are much more manageable and the costs are quite similar.

euroclydon 17y ago
I understand buying your own machine, but you still need to co-locate. $40/mo cable internet connections aren't suitable for hosting are they? I server up port 80 and various other traffic from mine, but it's minuscule, and I think if you tried to do much of it, your ISP would shut you down.
- JoachimSchipper 17y ago
  It's not really HTTP that is going to be a problem - as long as you are willing to live with the latency and low (upstream) bandwidth, that is - it's SMTP. Many mail servers will drop anything from a residential line without even telling you, and with (some) good reason(s).
lamnk 17y ago
Bandwidth is only cheap if you commit to buy large amount of traffic, like a 10Gb uplink. It's still expensive from single server level. Take a look at EC2, i think income from bandwidth charge is the main source of profit. The base price of an instance only covers electricity, maintaince and initial hardware cost IMO.
- patrickgzill 17y ago
  What do you consider cheap for bandwidth? Is $3.99 per mbps with a minimum commit of 10Mbps expensive? A 10Mbps would give you approximately 1250GB of traffic in a real-world scenario. See: http://uberbandwidth.com/pricing.asp http://uberbandwidth.com/pricing.asp
  - eleitl 17y ago
    > Is $3.99 per mbps with a minimum commit of 10Mbps expensive? Yes. I currently pay about 12 EUR for a TByte of traffic, 100 MBit/s dedicated router (i.e. not shared switch) port.
  - lamnk 17y ago
    What do you consider cheap for bandwidth? Depend on servers usage. $399 per month for a 100mpbs line is not expensive if you have for example a streaming server. But my sites consum about 1TB a month in total, so why pay for more when my need is only 5Mpbs ? (10Mbps gives you 3TB up and 3TB down if it's full duplex) As technology advances bandwidth price will definitely go down. My point is that as of now bandwidth cost still represents a significant share of a server's total cost. 100Mpbs becomes cheap when you have a bunch of servers, like 15+. That's why low end dedicated servers and VPSs still have a market, hosting companies can buy wholesale bandwidth/hardware for cheap and then resell, though the margin is not that good.

euroclydon 17y ago

I understand buying your own machine, but you still need to co-locate. $40/mo cable internet connections aren't suitable for hosting are they? I server up port 80 and various other traffic from mine, but it's minuscule, and I think if you tried to do much of it, your ISP would shut you down.

JoachimSchipper 17y ago
It's not really HTTP that is going to be a problem - as long as you are willing to live with the latency and low (upstream) bandwidth, that is - it's SMTP. Many mail servers will drop anything from a residential line without even telling you, and with (some) good reason(s).

lamnk 17y ago

Bandwidth is only cheap if you commit to buy large amount of traffic, like a 10Gb uplink. It's still expensive from single server level. Take a look at EC2, i think income from bandwidth charge is the main source of profit. The base price of an instance only covers electricity, maintaince and initial hardware cost IMO.

patrickgzill 17y ago
What do you consider cheap for bandwidth? Is $3.99 per mbps with a minimum commit of 10Mbps expensive? A 10Mbps would give you approximately 1250GB of traffic in a real-world scenario. See: http://uberbandwidth.com/pricing.asp http://uberbandwidth.com/pricing.asp
- eleitl 17y ago
  > Is $3.99 per mbps with a minimum commit of 10Mbps expensive? Yes. I currently pay about 12 EUR for a TByte of traffic, 100 MBit/s dedicated router (i.e. not shared switch) port.
- lamnk 17y ago
  What do you consider cheap for bandwidth? Depend on servers usage. $399 per month for a 100mpbs line is not expensive if you have for example a streaming server. But my sites consum about 1TB a month in total, so why pay for more when my need is only 5Mpbs ? (10Mbps gives you 3TB up and 3TB down if it's full duplex) As technology advances bandwidth price will definitely go down. My point is that as of now bandwidth cost still represents a significant share of a server's total cost. 100Mpbs becomes cheap when you have a bunch of servers, like 15+. That's why low end dedicated servers and VPSs still have a market, hosting companies can buy wholesale bandwidth/hardware for cheap and then resell, though the margin is not that good.