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It matters to me, at least, that the law be followed as written. Rule by whim and secret dictate does not seem like a good system of government.
by judemelancon 12y ago
It matters to me, at least, that the law be followed as written. Rule by whim and secret dictate does not seem like a good system of government.
- bhayden 12y agoIt matters to me too, but it's not the root of the problem.
- EGreg 12y agoWhat if the law says that secret courts can decide using secret proceedings?
- ethbro 12y ago> What if the law says that secret courts can decide using secret proceedings? Then at least it's on the books as a choice our society has made. OP's issue is there's currently no clear legal chain of certain programs back to a democratic decision.
- EGreg 12y agoThe FISA courts have been authorized by an Act of Congress. That's what the checks and balances are for, though, and the courts can overturn it. I wonder if the system will stand uo though. The addiction to bigbdata is strong once tasted, and spy agencies actually enjoy getting away with stuff.
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- drzaiusapelord 12y ago>Then at least it's on the books as a choice our society has made. A handful of elites handing responsibility to a handful of FISA judges in closed/secret court is far, far a choice "society" has made. From the norms and practices of the USG, I imagine almost everything the NSA does is perfectly legal. SCOTUS will respect the Executive in terms of its state secrets argument and Congress's leadership in handing responsibility to managing these things to FISA will also be deemed lawful.