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best thing to come out of friendfeed, Tornado. I remember asking Bret Taylor on his blog [0] when he gave a Tornado example if he'd ever release it. A bit of ti

best thing to come out of friendfeed, Tornado. I remember asking Bret Taylor on his blog [0] when he gave a Tornado example if he'd ever release it. A bit of time went by, then he did. [1] Thanks Bret. [0] http://backchannel.org/blog/tornado http://backchannel.org/blog/tornado [1] https://friendfeed.com/friendfeed-news/9b8fbaed/technology-behind-tornado-friendfeed-web https://friendfeed.com/friendfeed-news/9b8fbaed/technology-b...

ponytech 12y ago
Will Tornado continue to be maintained? There are still a lot of commits being made: https://github.com/tornadoweb/tornado/commits/master https://github.com/tornadoweb/tornado/commits/master
- m0th87 12y ago
  Tornado has a BDFL (Ben Darnell) who continues to maintain it, and hasn't been a part of facebook/friendfeed for some time now.
nailer 12y ago
Goddamn Tornado was/is the best Python HTTP server ever. Asides from the wide utility library of non-blocking IO (years before node got popular) it had Sinatra-style class based routing that was far simpler than django's bizarre route.as_route() stuff. A friend once said the worst thing about Tornado was how little publicity it got.
- bdarnell 12y ago
  Why all the "was/is" in this subthread? Tornado's not going anywhere.
  - nailer 12y ago
    Only reason I wrote 'is/was' because it's been a couple of years since I used Tornado and other Python HTTP servers might have gotten better. I hack node all day now.
- pekk 12y ago
  What did you think about Twisted?
  - nailer 12y ago
    Twisted was focused on general sockets apps rather than HTTP, and for some reason had code written using a styleguide different from the rest of the Python ecosystem. Tornado OTOH was very HTTP focused. It also had a bunch of useful examples maintained in the actual repo so they were always up to date.
napoleond 12y ago
Agreed, Tornado was/is awesome. Is it still being used in new projects? I somewhat prefer it to node/etc for that style of app, but I would probably still choose JS for real-time web nowadays just because of the mindshare/community around it. I would love it if there was a thriving Tornado community somewhere that I'd missed.
- adregan 12y ago
  We use it for quite a bit at my job (for everything really). Mostly, I think due to familiarity. I enjoy working with it (and I've grown to really enjoy python due to my time using it), and it's possible to build a server that uses generators pretty easily. The only problem is that you have to be really watchful for blocking calls mucking the whole thing up. For a long time, I really would have rather used node, but now, I'm ok with using python. I pushed us into a micro service style architecture, so one day, it's feasible to upgrade different parts of the stack with different technologies.

ponytech 12y ago

Will Tornado continue to be maintained? There are still a lot of commits being made: https://github.com/tornadoweb/tornado/commits/master https://github.com/tornadoweb/tornado/commits/master

m0th87 12y ago
Tornado has a BDFL (Ben Darnell) who continues to maintain it, and hasn't been a part of facebook/friendfeed for some time now.

nailer 12y ago

Goddamn Tornado was/is the best Python HTTP server ever. Asides from the wide utility library of non-blocking IO (years before node got popular) it had Sinatra-style class based routing that was far simpler than django's bizarre route.as_route() stuff. A friend once said the worst thing about Tornado was how little publicity it got.

bdarnell 12y ago
Why all the "was/is" in this subthread? Tornado's not going anywhere.
- nailer 12y ago
  Only reason I wrote 'is/was' because it's been a couple of years since I used Tornado and other Python HTTP servers might have gotten better. I hack node all day now.
pekk 12y ago
What did you think about Twisted?
- nailer 12y ago
  Twisted was focused on general sockets apps rather than HTTP, and for some reason had code written using a styleguide different from the rest of the Python ecosystem. Tornado OTOH was very HTTP focused. It also had a bunch of useful examples maintained in the actual repo so they were always up to date.

napoleond 12y ago

Agreed, Tornado was/is awesome. Is it still being used in new projects? I somewhat prefer it to node/etc for that style of app, but I would probably still choose JS for real-time web nowadays just because of the mindshare/community around it. I would love it if there was a thriving Tornado community somewhere that I'd missed.

adregan 12y ago
We use it for quite a bit at my job (for everything really). Mostly, I think due to familiarity. I enjoy working with it (and I've grown to really enjoy python due to my time using it), and it's possible to build a server that uses generators pretty easily. The only problem is that you have to be really watchful for blocking calls mucking the whole thing up. For a long time, I really would have rather used node, but now, I'm ok with using python. I pushed us into a micro service style architecture, so one day, it's feasible to upgrade different parts of the stack with different technologies.