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I'm also curious - what about Windows Explorer makes it a painful experience? I learned how to use computers using DOS/Windows and it's what my idea of "correc

by hrabago 12y ago

I'm also curious - what about Windows Explorer makes it a painful experience? I learned how to use computers using DOS/Windows and it's what my idea of "correct" is. I'm curious about the other perspective.

tormeh 12y ago
For me? Lack of tabs and lack of right-click open-in-terminal. I don't use Windows much anymore, but I remember those, so I guess they're the worst ones. But nevermind the file manager, it's the Windows terminal that really sucks.
- jhasse 12y ago
  You can use shift+right click to open in terminal. Also try https://github.com/jhasse/smart_cmd https://github.com/jhasse/smart_cmd which I use together with MSYS2's mintty.
coliveira 12y ago
The worst thing of new versions of WinExplorer in my opinion is that you can't position files at the location you want (with the exception of the desktop). I have some folders in my Mac that I organize strictly by location, and that is impossible to do in recent versions of Windows.
kalleboo 12y ago
I haven't used Windows in a while so maybe these are fixed now. * Directories are sorted separately as if they're some mystical entity that can't be mixed with files. Makes navigating by typing a PITA. * List views can't show or sort by the size of directories. * No spring-loaded folders makes drag and drop a huge PITA. * I find the disclosure triangles to view multiple subdirectories in a single window extremely useful http://www.bgcarlisle.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Finder-disclosure-triangles.png http://www.bgcarlisle.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Fi... Just lots of little stuff like this.
- WorldWideWayne 12y ago
  I'd bet a month's pay that the hooks are at least there in Explorer to let you do all of those things though. Apple usually doesn't let you customize anything. That's why I can have things like Tortoise Git/Hg/SVN and Mac users cannot.
  - kalleboo 12y ago
    People have been hooking into the Finder for ages.[0] And in Yosemite they've started opened up the Finder more with official extensions support.[1] I don't see how Dropbox can do the things it does in the Finder and you couldn't do Tortoise Git on the Mac. It's just that nobody has done it. [0] http://totalfinder.binaryage.com http://totalfinder.binaryage.com [1] https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/General/Conceptual/ExtensibilityPG/Finder.html https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/Genera...
    - WorldWideWayne 12y ago
      Yeah, but in Windows it's usually supported officially (and documented) and you know they won't completely pull the rug out from under you on the next release. Apple on the other hand will break the API without even telling anyone. How could you depend on such a company? Anyway, talk is cheap - have a look at all of the shell extensions you can build with Windows and compare them to what you can do in OS X: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/cc144067%28v=vs.85%29.aspx https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/cc1...
- spronkey 12y ago
  Sorting directories separately is the best thing ever.

by hrabago 12y ago

tormeh 12y ago

For me? Lack of tabs and lack of right-click open-in-terminal. I don't use Windows much anymore, but I remember those, so I guess they're the worst ones. But nevermind the file manager, it's the Windows terminal that really sucks.

jhasse 12y ago
You can use shift+right click to open in terminal. Also try https://github.com/jhasse/smart_cmd https://github.com/jhasse/smart_cmd which I use together with MSYS2's mintty.

coliveira 12y ago

The worst thing of new versions of WinExplorer in my opinion is that you can't position files at the location you want (with the exception of the desktop). I have some folders in my Mac that I organize strictly by location, and that is impossible to do in recent versions of Windows.

kalleboo 12y ago

I haven't used Windows in a while so maybe these are fixed now. * Directories are sorted separately as if they're some mystical entity that can't be mixed with files. Makes navigating by typing a PITA. * List views can't show or sort by the size of directories. * No spring-loaded folders makes drag and drop a huge PITA. * I find the disclosure triangles to view multiple subdirectories in a single window extremely useful http://www.bgcarlisle.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Finder-disclosure-triangles.png http://www.bgcarlisle.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Fi... Just lots of little stuff like this.

WorldWideWayne 12y ago
I'd bet a month's pay that the hooks are at least there in Explorer to let you do all of those things though. Apple usually doesn't let you customize anything. That's why I can have things like Tortoise Git/Hg/SVN and Mac users cannot.
- kalleboo 12y ago
  People have been hooking into the Finder for ages.[0] And in Yosemite they've started opened up the Finder more with official extensions support.[1] I don't see how Dropbox can do the things it does in the Finder and you couldn't do Tortoise Git on the Mac. It's just that nobody has done it. [0] http://totalfinder.binaryage.com http://totalfinder.binaryage.com [1] https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/General/Conceptual/ExtensibilityPG/Finder.html https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/Genera...
  - WorldWideWayne 12y ago
    Yeah, but in Windows it's usually supported officially (and documented) and you know they won't completely pull the rug out from under you on the next release. Apple on the other hand will break the API without even telling anyone. How could you depend on such a company? Anyway, talk is cheap - have a look at all of the shell extensions you can build with Windows and compare them to what you can do in OS X: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/cc144067%28v=vs.85%29.aspx https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/cc1...
spronkey 12y ago
Sorting directories separately is the best thing ever.