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So, for those of us who fit your archetype, that mostly build web apps in high-level languages like Python, haven't touched Assembly in a decade, but do not hav

by bmelton 12y ago

So, for those of us who fit your archetype, that mostly build web apps in high-level languages like Python, haven't touched Assembly in a decade, but do not have a team of seasoned hackers hanging out with us in our living rooms, what are the odds that we're going to be able to use it to refine our skills in isolation? I fully understand that if your company is looking for pen testers, I'm not the guy you'd hire. That's cool, but since one of the aims is developing and refining skill, how approachable is it intended to be?

tptacek 12y ago
We're not looking for pentesters.
javajosh 12y ago
This game is not for people who like you (or me) don't have much interest in assembly, systems programming or pen testing. (This group includes, by the way, a large group of very talented programmers who've shipped most of the software the world uses). It is troubling that the language they use on the site implies that systems and security programming is what all programmers aspire to do, but that's just an unfortunate bias on the part of the authors. Personally, I think they'd do well to change it, but perhaps that's exactly how they feel and exactly the kind of messaging they need to attract the right people.
- everyone 12y ago
  I find this to be an issue with many of the articles linked on this site. They refer to 'hackers' or 'programmers' .It usually means people doing some sort of web app, or related thing, and it usually doesnt apply to me at all though I know I'm a very good programmer. I make games. I have a background in architecture, its a mature industry and there are architects, structural engineers, mechanical and electrical engineers, architectural technologists, quantity surveyors, project managers etc. Perhaps as coding as a job matures over the decades this process will also take place.

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So, for those of us who fit your archetype, that mostly build web apps in high-level languages like Python, haven't touched Assembly in a decade, but do not hav

by bmelton 12y ago

tptacek 12y ago
We're not looking for pentesters.
javajosh 12y ago
This game is not for people who like you (or me) don't have much interest in assembly, systems programming or pen testing. (This group includes, by the way, a large group of very talented programmers who've shipped most of the software the world uses). It is troubling that the language they use on the site implies that systems and security programming is what all programmers aspire to do, but that's just an unfortunate bias on the part of the authors. Personally, I think they'd do well to change it, but perhaps that's exactly how they feel and exactly the kind of messaging they need to attract the right people.
- everyone 12y ago
  I find this to be an issue with many of the articles linked on this site. They refer to 'hackers' or 'programmers' .It usually means people doing some sort of web app, or related thing, and it usually doesnt apply to me at all though I know I'm a very good programmer. I make games. I have a background in architecture, its a mature industry and there are architects, structural engineers, mechanical and electrical engineers, architectural technologists, quantity surveyors, project managers etc. Perhaps as coding as a job matures over the decades this process will also take place.