5 ms·

> Resolution of 2304x1440 which means at Retina this is 1152x720!. This is worse than the 11 inch air, much less the 13 inch 1440x900. I don't think people real

by dignati 12y ago

> Resolution of 2304x1440 which means at Retina this is 1152x720!. This is worse than the 11 inch air, much less the 13 inch 1440x900. I don't think people realize how cramped this will seem if you start doing work on this laptop You can still scale the screen resolution and get a higher resolution than the Air's 1440x900.

npalli 12y ago
yeah, i know you can scale it. Will it look good though? In addition, it has a pretty weak processor, so we will have to see how the performance works out if you scale it. Especially if you drive a monitor.
- dignati 12y ago
  Yes, I'm concerned about performance too but. Scaling on my 15" rMBP from 2012 definitely looks good, I usually keep it at one step lower (more screen space) than reccomended. If your eyes can take it, you won't loose quality.
- m_mueller 12y ago
  > Will it look good though? Yes, I scale my 15'' rMBP all the time according to what I currently need and the quality difference is hardly noticeable. > performance That one I'm also curious about. My takeaway from this new MB however is that it's pretty much unusable as a business laptop anyways. For a serious laptop I still need power, display, ethernet and at least one USB port available at the same time as an absolute minimum, plus connectivity to both HDMI and VGA when needed. Even if they offered all the dongles for that, it would still be a mess to work with on a daily basis. So, really, even if the performance were good, it wouldn't change anything for me. I'm curious how version 2 of that machine will be - didn't we already have a similar situation with the first macbook air and then they readded more ports later, because you know, they'd also actually like to sell these things rather than just having Jony talk about them in a soothing voice?
  - delsalk 12y ago
    Unfortunately scaling becomes useless if you need todo any graphical related work, where you really do need 1:1 (retina) resolution.
    - m_mueller 12y ago
      One thing to keep in mind though is that you can comfortably read text that is quite a bit smaller on retina, so you can work at a higher application zoom level, which gives you back some space. Not sure whether the interface elements are too big for this display size, but intuitively the resolution sounds about right, it's about the same as the old (beloved) Powerbook 12'' as far as I remember.
    - eropple 12y ago
      Not true, in my experience. 1680x1050 mode works fine for digital painting and print setting stuff (where I'm working off InDesign's guides anyway).
largote 12y ago
Yeah, it'll look good. I scale my 15" MBP to 1920x1200 and it looks good.

by dignati 12y ago

npalli 12y ago

yeah, i know you can scale it. Will it look good though? In addition, it has a pretty weak processor, so we will have to see how the performance works out if you scale it. Especially if you drive a monitor.

dignati 12y ago
Yes, I'm concerned about performance too but. Scaling on my 15" rMBP from 2012 definitely looks good, I usually keep it at one step lower (more screen space) than reccomended. If your eyes can take it, you won't loose quality.
m_mueller 12y ago
> Will it look good though? Yes, I scale my 15'' rMBP all the time according to what I currently need and the quality difference is hardly noticeable. > performance That one I'm also curious about. My takeaway from this new MB however is that it's pretty much unusable as a business laptop anyways. For a serious laptop I still need power, display, ethernet and at least one USB port available at the same time as an absolute minimum, plus connectivity to both HDMI and VGA when needed. Even if they offered all the dongles for that, it would still be a mess to work with on a daily basis. So, really, even if the performance were good, it wouldn't change anything for me. I'm curious how version 2 of that machine will be - didn't we already have a similar situation with the first macbook air and then they readded more ports later, because you know, they'd also actually like to sell these things rather than just having Jony talk about them in a soothing voice?
- delsalk 12y ago
  Unfortunately scaling becomes useless if you need todo any graphical related work, where you really do need 1:1 (retina) resolution.
  - m_mueller 12y ago
    One thing to keep in mind though is that you can comfortably read text that is quite a bit smaller on retina, so you can work at a higher application zoom level, which gives you back some space. Not sure whether the interface elements are too big for this display size, but intuitively the resolution sounds about right, it's about the same as the old (beloved) Powerbook 12'' as far as I remember.
  - eropple 12y ago
    Not true, in my experience. 1680x1050 mode works fine for digital painting and print setting stuff (where I'm working off InDesign's guides anyway).

largote 12y ago

Yeah, it'll look good. I scale my 15" MBP to 1920x1200 and it looks good.