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Great job transitioning from buying Coke using Apple Pay to managing diabetes in ResearchKit. Vertical integration at its finest.

by dduugg 12y ago

stock_toaster 12y ago
Coke also sells water. Pretty funny though regardless.
- JustSomeNobody 12y ago
  Of course it does. Carbonated and flavored. :)
  - stock_toaster 12y ago
    Well, they also bottle municipal water and sell it straight up (dasani[1] i think?). I certainly agree that the flavored water, being still sold as "water", is a pretty fucking awful trend though. [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dasani#United_States http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dasani#United_States
- wahsd 12y ago
  Based on my rough calculations, at a 1,333,333% markup. http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2015/02/24/Nestle-Pays-Nothing-to-Bottle-Water/?utm_source=daily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=240215 http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2015/02/24/Nestle-Pays-Nothing-to-...
  - stock_toaster 12y ago
    $2.25 for a million liters of water? Wow, that is crazy. This really exemplifies the age of big-corp we currently live in.
    - danudey 12y ago
      This is actually an improvement, in that before this legislation it was free to bottle your own water in BC. This price isn't nearly high enough, but it's better[] than before. The last estimate I saw was that Nestle was going to pay about $550/yr to bottle and sell our water back to us.
  - brandonmenc 12y ago
    Intel is marking up sand at a couple orders of magnitude greater than this.
    - sjwright 12y ago
      I wonder how much Intel pays for its sand.
      - simonh 12y ago
        Silicon ingots run to about $70-$200/kg according to Alibaba. I think I read that Intel buys their silicon from a specialist supplier rather than grow their own ingots.
  - sjwright 12y ago
    Look at it another way: the incremental unit cost of flavours, colours and carbonation probably isn't much. So really, every bottled beverage is primarily driven by logistics, marketing and consumer willingness. I doubt water is any more profitable than cola. The difference with plain water is it's pretty much a true commodity product; assuming free-market economics, if it really were feasible to lower prices it would have already happened.
- wiremine 12y ago
  And don't forget the "premium milk" http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2015/02/03/coca-cola-coke-fairlife-milk-premium-milk-dairy-nutrition/22798261/ http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2015/02/03/coca-cola-cok...
  - pwenzel 12y ago
    Parks & Recreation made fun of "luxury milk" in a recent episode. It pains me to learn that they were parodying a real thing, not just making a joke. (clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46iPFTCZ9LA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46iPFTCZ9LA)
  - stock_toaster 12y ago
    I think I just premium vomited in my mouth a little. :(
philip1209 12y ago
It sounds to me like they're building an internal Truevault for managing patient data.
swatow 12y ago
If you were in charge at Apple, would you have made Apple Pay unable to buy a Coke?
- dduugg 12y ago
  That's a bit of a straw man argument. I would have chosen another product to highlight Apple Pay though. It's not just the irony in following it with a diabetes app, but that Tim Cook's predecessor had a well-know quote about selling "sugared water".
  - swatow 12y ago
    ah I didn't even realize you were referring to the video.
    - dduugg 12y ago
      The link has since been updated, it originally pointed to the live stream. I can see how this thread (and probably a few others) doesn't make very much sense now.
  - melling 12y ago
    Well, someday if you work really hard, you can make the leap from pundit on the Internet to making that call. In the meantime, can we make HN better and avoid making silly comments top voted? "Does anyone get the irony..."

Great job transitioning from buying Coke using Apple Pay to managing diabetes in ResearchKit. Vertical integration at its finest.

by dduugg 12y ago

Great job transitioning from buying Coke using Apple Pay to managing diabetes in ResearchKit. Vertical integration at its finest.

stock_toaster 12y ago

Coke also sells water. Pretty funny though regardless.

JustSomeNobody 12y ago
Of course it does. Carbonated and flavored. :)
- stock_toaster 12y ago
  Well, they also bottle municipal water and sell it straight up (dasani[1] i think?). I certainly agree that the flavored water, being still sold as "water", is a pretty fucking awful trend though. [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dasani#United_States http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dasani#United_States
wahsd 12y ago
Based on my rough calculations, at a 1,333,333% markup. http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2015/02/24/Nestle-Pays-Nothing-to-Bottle-Water/?utm_source=daily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=240215 http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2015/02/24/Nestle-Pays-Nothing-to-...
- stock_toaster 12y ago
  $2.25 for a million liters of water? Wow, that is crazy. This really exemplifies the age of big-corp we currently live in.
  - danudey 12y ago
    This is actually an improvement, in that before this legislation it was free to bottle your own water in BC. This price isn't nearly high enough, but it's better[] than before. The last estimate I saw was that Nestle was going to pay about $550/yr to bottle and sell our water back to us.
- brandonmenc 12y ago
  Intel is marking up sand at a couple orders of magnitude greater than this.
  - sjwright 12y ago
    I wonder how much Intel pays for its sand.
    - simonh 12y ago
      Silicon ingots run to about $70-$200/kg according to Alibaba. I think I read that Intel buys their silicon from a specialist supplier rather than grow their own ingots.
- sjwright 12y ago
  Look at it another way: the incremental unit cost of flavours, colours and carbonation probably isn't much. So really, every bottled beverage is primarily driven by logistics, marketing and consumer willingness. I doubt water is any more profitable than cola. The difference with plain water is it's pretty much a true commodity product; assuming free-market economics, if it really were feasible to lower prices it would have already happened.
wiremine 12y ago
And don't forget the "premium milk" http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2015/02/03/coca-cola-coke-fairlife-milk-premium-milk-dairy-nutrition/22798261/ http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2015/02/03/coca-cola-cok...
- pwenzel 12y ago
  Parks & Recreation made fun of "luxury milk" in a recent episode. It pains me to learn that they were parodying a real thing, not just making a joke. (clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46iPFTCZ9LA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46iPFTCZ9LA)
- stock_toaster 12y ago
  I think I just premium vomited in my mouth a little. :(

philip1209 12y ago

It sounds to me like they're building an internal Truevault for managing patient data.

swatow 12y ago

If you were in charge at Apple, would you have made Apple Pay unable to buy a Coke?

dduugg 12y ago
That's a bit of a straw man argument. I would have chosen another product to highlight Apple Pay though. It's not just the irony in following it with a diabetes app, but that Tim Cook's predecessor had a well-know quote about selling "sugared water".
- swatow 12y ago
  ah I didn't even realize you were referring to the video.
  - dduugg 12y ago
    The link has since been updated, it originally pointed to the live stream. I can see how this thread (and probably a few others) doesn't make very much sense now.
- melling 12y ago
  Well, someday if you work really hard, you can make the leap from pundit on the Internet to making that call. In the meantime, can we make HN better and avoid making silly comments top voted? "Does anyone get the irony..."