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This won't work well when using an air to do presentations and you can't switch between a monitor and power.... The slightly cynical me tends to think the thun

This won't work well when using an air to do presentations and you can't switch between a monitor and power.... The slightly cynical me tends to think the thunderbolt port was great and on every mac. now new adapters...

look_lookatme 12y ago
Presumably accessory manufacturers will create peripherals that allow video out + power at the same time?
- exprL 12y ago
  That's the stopgap solution, I think. Looking at the larger picture, it's silly that a projector only looks for video-in, instead of video-in/power-out, considering it's already plugged to a wall outlet.
  - JshWright 12y ago
    You think the end game is "We'll improve the hardwire connection to the project so it can backfeed power" rather than "We'll just get rid of the wire"?
- retroencabulato 12y ago
  And a USB rootkit bundled in for free!
  - ghostly_s 12y ago
    Alert! It looks like you connected a device from an untrusted Vendor ID which is enumerating as both a [display|power source|input device] and a [USB Mass Storage device]. Do you want to allow this? [Unmount device] [Allow both]
wnissen 12y ago
Well, it never really took off outside the Mac world. This may be an improvement. I look at my Mac Mini that currently has power, Thunderbolt display, 3 disks, USB hub with 30-pin and Lightning, and DVD, though, and wonder WTF they are thinking about 1 port. IF the daisy chaining works and I can still charge my iPad, it could be really nice.
- settsu 12y ago
  If you require so many peripherals concurrently, why would you consider a notebook?
  - stevenspasbo 12y ago
    Mac minis aren't notebooks.
    - jknightco 12y ago
      I believe that was his point. Why is wnissen comparing his current All-in-One to a notebook?
  - thisjepisje 12y ago
    Probably so that s/he can carry it around with him.
  - EdwardDiego 12y ago
    Yeah, because anyone who wants to use two USB devices at the same time clearly bought the wrong computer. People have different use cases to you. Deal with it.
toufka 12y ago
Couldn't you then be using the monitor's power source to charge the laptop? Presumably the monitor is plugged into the wall and can transmit power to the laptop while the laptop transmits data to it.
shabadoop 12y ago
It has 10 hours of battery life, so I think the idea is that you don't plug it in as often.
jjcm 12y ago
Here at Microsoft all our meeting rooms are supporting wireless display tech - apple air play included. This seems to be in line with apple's history - ditch technology that is approaching its end of life and force the newer tech to take over. There's still the ability to do wired external displays, but it's at the same convenience the usb cd drives were when apple phased them out.
- qzcx 12y ago
  As someone who likes to have a second monitor when I can, where are my wireless display tech for monitors? It would be awesome if all I had to do was turn on my monitor and not have to deal with cables, but currently that is reality. Seriously though, I'm looking forward to cable-less future when it come to monitors.
zanny 12y ago
You should expect USB-C native displays to also power the connected device, and they will easily begin showing up this year.

look_lookatme 12y ago

Presumably accessory manufacturers will create peripherals that allow video out + power at the same time?

exprL 12y ago
That's the stopgap solution, I think. Looking at the larger picture, it's silly that a projector only looks for video-in, instead of video-in/power-out, considering it's already plugged to a wall outlet.
- JshWright 12y ago
  You think the end game is "We'll improve the hardwire connection to the project so it can backfeed power" rather than "We'll just get rid of the wire"?
retroencabulato 12y ago
And a USB rootkit bundled in for free!
- ghostly_s 12y ago
  Alert! It looks like you connected a device from an untrusted Vendor ID which is enumerating as both a [display|power source|input device] and a [USB Mass Storage device]. Do you want to allow this? [Unmount device] [Allow both]

wnissen 12y ago

Well, it never really took off outside the Mac world. This may be an improvement. I look at my Mac Mini that currently has power, Thunderbolt display, 3 disks, USB hub with 30-pin and Lightning, and DVD, though, and wonder WTF they are thinking about 1 port. IF the daisy chaining works and I can still charge my iPad, it could be really nice.

settsu 12y ago
If you require so many peripherals concurrently, why would you consider a notebook?
- stevenspasbo 12y ago
  Mac minis aren't notebooks.
  - jknightco 12y ago
    I believe that was his point. Why is wnissen comparing his current All-in-One to a notebook?
- thisjepisje 12y ago
  Probably so that s/he can carry it around with him.
- EdwardDiego 12y ago
  Yeah, because anyone who wants to use two USB devices at the same time clearly bought the wrong computer. People have different use cases to you. Deal with it.

toufka 12y ago

Couldn't you then be using the monitor's power source to charge the laptop? Presumably the monitor is plugged into the wall and can transmit power to the laptop while the laptop transmits data to it.

shabadoop 12y ago

It has 10 hours of battery life, so I think the idea is that you don't plug it in as often.

jjcm 12y ago

Here at Microsoft all our meeting rooms are supporting wireless display tech - apple air play included. This seems to be in line with apple's history - ditch technology that is approaching its end of life and force the newer tech to take over. There's still the ability to do wired external displays, but it's at the same convenience the usb cd drives were when apple phased them out.

qzcx 12y ago
As someone who likes to have a second monitor when I can, where are my wireless display tech for monitors? It would be awesome if all I had to do was turn on my monitor and not have to deal with cables, but currently that is reality. Seriously though, I'm looking forward to cable-less future when it come to monitors.

zanny 12y ago

You should expect USB-C native displays to also power the connected device, and they will easily begin showing up this year.