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No Fortune 1000 CEO uses a Mac, so that's not an issue.

by zak_mc_kracken 12y ago

benaiah 12y ago
I think Tim Cook might.
- pornel 12y ago
  He knows already. Apple has stopped including Java in OS X and banned Java in the AppStore.
  - desdiv 12y ago
    Oh, how the mighty have fallen. This is what developer.apple.com/java read back in 2009 [0]: Mac OS X is the only major consumer operating system that comes complete with a fully configured and ready-to-use Java runtime and development environment. Professional Java developers are increasingly turning to the feature-rich Mac OS X as the operating system of choice for both Mac-based and cross-platform Java development projects. Mac OS X includes the full version of J2SE 1.5, pre-installed with the Java Development Kit (JDK) and the HotSpot virtual machine (VM), so you don't have to download, install, or configure anything. Deploying Java applications on Mac OS X takes advantage of many built-in features, including 64-bit support, resolution independence, automatic support of multiprocessor hardware, native support for the Java Accessibility API, and the native Aqua look and feel. As a result, Java applications on Mac OS X look and perform like native applications on Mac OS X. [0] http://wayback.archive.org/web/20091223033016/http://developer.apple.com/java/ http://wayback.archive.org/web/20091223033016/http://develop...
  - spot 12y ago
    i believe they banned apps that depend on the system java. you can still include your own JRE.
  - mike_hearn 12y ago
    There are lots of apps in the app store written in Java. However they have to ship a bundled JRE themselves. Oddly, Oracle provide a tool to create a DMG with a .app inside that has a bundled inside. It's very easy to use. Doing this means your users don't need to install Java themselves anymore. Seems like the left hand cutting off the revenue stream of the right hand, but hey, I'm not complaining.
- lisperforlife 12y ago
  He probably does not need Java.
TazeTSchnitzel 12y ago
Really? Perhaps not at work, but I'm sure plenty of them use Macs at home.
- repsilat 12y ago
  Who uses Java at home? Only half-joking -- I'm not sure it has any real desktop application mindshare, though I don't know much about what people run on their Macs.
  - stephengillie 12y ago
    Minecraft, Starmade, and just about every 3d voxel shooter is based on Java. So there goes the other argument: that games aren't for Macs either.
redthrowaway 12y ago
Why would you say that? Just as probably >80% of them have iPhones, I suspect a fair number of them have Macs
- zak_mc_kracken 12y ago
  Humor. Which nobody seems to have on HN.
kreddor 12y ago
Except it was already an issue on Windows (has been for years).
bfuller 12y ago
What do they use? I am curious to know

No Fortune 1000 CEO uses a Mac, so that's not an issue.

benaiah 12y ago

I think Tim Cook might.

pornel 12y ago
He knows already. Apple has stopped including Java in OS X and banned Java in the AppStore.
- desdiv 12y ago
  Oh, how the mighty have fallen. This is what developer.apple.com/java read back in 2009 [0]: Mac OS X is the only major consumer operating system that comes complete with a fully configured and ready-to-use Java runtime and development environment. Professional Java developers are increasingly turning to the feature-rich Mac OS X as the operating system of choice for both Mac-based and cross-platform Java development projects. Mac OS X includes the full version of J2SE 1.5, pre-installed with the Java Development Kit (JDK) and the HotSpot virtual machine (VM), so you don't have to download, install, or configure anything. Deploying Java applications on Mac OS X takes advantage of many built-in features, including 64-bit support, resolution independence, automatic support of multiprocessor hardware, native support for the Java Accessibility API, and the native Aqua look and feel. As a result, Java applications on Mac OS X look and perform like native applications on Mac OS X. [0] http://wayback.archive.org/web/20091223033016/http://developer.apple.com/java/ http://wayback.archive.org/web/20091223033016/http://develop...
- spot 12y ago
  i believe they banned apps that depend on the system java. you can still include your own JRE.
- mike_hearn 12y ago
  There are lots of apps in the app store written in Java. However they have to ship a bundled JRE themselves. Oddly, Oracle provide a tool to create a DMG with a .app inside that has a bundled inside. It's very easy to use. Doing this means your users don't need to install Java themselves anymore. Seems like the left hand cutting off the revenue stream of the right hand, but hey, I'm not complaining.
lisperforlife 12y ago
He probably does not need Java.

TazeTSchnitzel 12y ago

Really? Perhaps not at work, but I'm sure plenty of them use Macs at home.

repsilat 12y ago
Who uses Java at home? Only half-joking -- I'm not sure it has any real desktop application mindshare, though I don't know much about what people run on their Macs.
- stephengillie 12y ago
  Minecraft, Starmade, and just about every 3d voxel shooter is based on Java. So there goes the other argument: that games aren't for Macs either.

redthrowaway 12y ago

Why would you say that? Just as probably >80% of them have iPhones, I suspect a fair number of them have Macs

zak_mc_kracken 12y ago
Humor. Which nobody seems to have on HN.

kreddor 12y ago

Except it was already an issue on Windows (has been for years).

bfuller 12y ago

What do they use? I am curious to know