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Doesn't matter if it's fact if it creates a nice narrative for increasing and securing funds and power.

res0nat0r 12y ago
Why is suddenly everything the government says automatically a lie/coverup/false flag/conspiracy, yet the opposition in this case just happily accepted as fact? The USG has no need to falsely accuse North Korea in order to step up it's cyber warfare game. Stuxnet did that a long time ago and was started under the Bush administration.
- lotsofmangos 12y ago
  It still does seem unlikely that a nation state would hack a film company specifically because of a scene featuring their leader being assassinated and immediately publicly dump exactly that clip in a load of stolen email data, so that it ends up all over reddit while still in the process of demanding that it is not released in any format ever. That said, from another point of view, monumental fuck-up is a consistent feature of many human endeavours.
- task_queue 12y ago
  Stuxnet was a complicated maneuver that was directed at Iranian civilian facilities and wasn't retaliatory or relatable to the layman at all. The reveal of Stuxnet was before the reveal of the reach our surveillance apparatus has. The narrative was one of plausible deniability and a nod to the fact that nations were engaging in offensive online attacks. The NK hack was an attack on American culture and values. It was symbolic in a way that attacking Iranian civilian nuclear power plants isn't. It also doesn't involve exposing and admitting to running offensive campaigns on civilians of countries we aren't at war with. NK hack says that we need cyber defense front, since the internet is the new land bridge across the Atlantic and Pacific for anti-American extremists to attack us directly. It fits the narrative that the measures we are taking regarding near total electronic surveillance are justified and warranted. It also is a call for more funding and power to the agencies that are engaging in the activities.

Why is suddenly everything the government says automatically a lie/coverup/false flag/conspiracy, yet the opposition in this case just happily accepted as fact? The USG has no need to falsely accuse North Korea in order to step up it's cyber warfare game. Stuxnet did that a long time ago and was started under the Bush administration.

lotsofmangos 12y ago
It still does seem unlikely that a nation state would hack a film company specifically because of a scene featuring their leader being assassinated and immediately publicly dump exactly that clip in a load of stolen email data, so that it ends up all over reddit while still in the process of demanding that it is not released in any format ever. That said, from another point of view, monumental fuck-up is a consistent feature of many human endeavours.
task_queue 12y ago
Stuxnet was a complicated maneuver that was directed at Iranian civilian facilities and wasn't retaliatory or relatable to the layman at all. The reveal of Stuxnet was before the reveal of the reach our surveillance apparatus has. The narrative was one of plausible deniability and a nod to the fact that nations were engaging in offensive online attacks. The NK hack was an attack on American culture and values. It was symbolic in a way that attacking Iranian civilian nuclear power plants isn't. It also doesn't involve exposing and admitting to running offensive campaigns on civilians of countries we aren't at war with. NK hack says that we need cyber defense front, since the internet is the new land bridge across the Atlantic and Pacific for anti-American extremists to attack us directly. It fits the narrative that the measures we are taking regarding near total electronic surveillance are justified and warranted. It also is a call for more funding and power to the agencies that are engaging in the activities.