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Intentional or not Apple doesn't sell any system with an ATOM CPU. There are any number of reasons they could have made completely unrelated changes that would
by jsz0 17y ago
Intentional or not Apple doesn't sell any system with an ATOM CPU. There are any number of reasons they could have made completely unrelated changes that would break them. Perhaps due to security, or the 64Bit transition, or a simple oversight. Installing OSX on CPU models Apple doesn't sell has always resulted in your CPU being declared as "unknown CPU" so that suggests Apple doesn't simply copy & paste all Intel CPU identifiers. I tend to doubt it was intentional because the Hackintosh community will find a simple work around that will add maybe 1 step to the process. Won't stop anyone who really wants to do it. Seems more likely it was a case of Apple not going out of their way to support hardware they don't sell.
- rbanffy 17y agoOTOH, they can always return an "unknown CPU" when the CPU identifiers are something they don't like. Is there a trick an original Intel Core Duo will do that an Atom won't? Snow Leopard can't be 64-bit only because that would make it incompatible with the first x86 Macs.
- jsz0 17y agoThe only thing I can think of is Vanderpool/Intel VT.
- rbanffy 17y agoIIRC, it wasn't present in the original Core Duo and Solo.
- tptacek 17y agoYes it was.
- rbanffy 17y agoSorry. Too late to edit or delete. I thought they were only present on 64-bit processors.
- tptacek 17y agoI vividly remember this because of the way the xnu kernel switches in and out of 32 bit mode, which broke Dino's Vitriol VT-x rootkit, which I needed to have working for a Black Hat talk on rootkit detection, which necessitated me tracking down an old Macbook to run my demo on.
- tptacek 17y agoThere are lots and lots of little things different between every generation of Intel chips, many (most) of which aren't exposed directly in the ISA.
- alttab 17y agoMaybe if you remove all third party fonts it'll work again. </sarcasm> Jokes out of the way - they did just release a new line of incredible and ground breaking iMacs, Macbooks, etc. All along with the news of their most profitable quarterly earnings, and the general disdain for Windows 7. I wouldn't be surprised if the mind-flow went like this for consumers: "Wow I want one of those new macs!" "Damn those are expensive..." "But I don't want a windows machine..." "I'll get a netbook, and then hackintosh it, I'll save money, get the experience I want, AND save 15% or more on my car insurance!" Apple could have seen something like this happening on a larger scale and simply "tweaked" the OS with the latest update to prevent mass pirating.
- naz 17y agoWhen would a consumer ever think of getting a Hackintosh?
- tvon 17y agoAfter reading a Wired article on how well it works?
- alttab 17y agoI think the confusion from my comment resulted from a working definition of "consumer". Have you payed for an apple product? Then you're a consumer. Let's not differientiate ourselves just because we write software. That said, that mind flow wouldn't be the TYPICAL one, it could result from people still wanting Osx on a cheaper machine and doing a google search for "mac netbook" or "osx netbook". Your typical "dumb" consumer may not know the difference, if that was the argument. Those searches could certainly turn up pages to hachintosh netbooks.
- randallsquared 17y agoWell, I would be very surprised if the mind-flow went like that. I think relatively few Apple customers even know what "hackintosh" means.
- rufo 17y agoExactly. Even as an owner of an Atom-based Hackintosh netbook, I can't fault Apple for not maintaining support for hardware they never supported in the first place. EDIT: Also: it seems to me that if Apple really intended to put a dent in the Hackintosh movement, they'd do something far more drastic than make things slightly inconvenient for netbook owners with a point release.
- fnid 17y agoSo you're replacing vendor lock-in with incompetence. I'm not quite sure which is more likely as there is extensive evidence on both sides of the coin.
- invisible 17y agoIf there was incompetence. They don't sell OSX to install on netbooks - in no way is that advised. If it was advised I'd bet they'd ship a lot more OSX discs than they do. But no, they ship those discs to upgrade your Apple hardware to the latest operating system that they made work with your Apple hardware.
- tvon 17y agoThe mis-use of the term "vendor lock-in" aside, how is it incompetent to not support something you don't support?
- fnid 17y agoPlease explain how I mis-used the term, considering the definition is: In economics, vendor lock-in, also known as proprietary lock-in, or customer lock-in, makes a customer dependent on a vendor for products and services, unable to use another vendor without substantial switching costs. I didn't say this incident is the result of incompetence, I am saying their developers have illustrated a lack of competence in the past. Breaking with third party fonts installed. Breaking iPhone updates that require the use of another computer to fix a broken patch. The list goes on and on.
- ianbishop 17y agoActually you did say this incident was a result of incompetence when quoting someone speaking on this subject and how it is not vender lock in. Bringing up things which frankly have absolutely nothing to do with what we're currently talking about doesn't aid your argument.
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