4 ms·

>Maybe you don't know what you're doing. I triple checked on two computers to be sure. Nada. Maybe go fuck yourself. >I'd say that you don't know what you're

>Maybe you don't know what you're doing. I triple checked on two computers to be sure. Nada. Maybe go fuck yourself. >I'd say that you don't know what you're talking about. And I'd say you should stick to low level coding and not comment on the economics of competition and the contents of the US vs. Microsoft dockets... unless you are an antitrust lawyer, an economist AND a kernel hacker? Thought not. >Except Google are able to precisely define what a Chromebook looks like So a single switch is monstrously expensive unless Google mandates it, in which case it's not a problem. >So cool you don't know what you're talking about. Jesus Christ you are so fucking lame. >Linux distributions having fucking dreadful installers really isn't what determines whether something is an antitrust violation or not. It's the FIRMWARE's job to tell you that it's "saving you from yourself", not the installers. >Linux distributions not being able to get their shit together sufficiently to get things signed isn't either. Canonical, Red Hat and Suse (and a whole host of smaller distributions and specialised products) have managed to deal with this. Funny. I tried installing (the latest release of) Ubuntu the other day and got nothing but a cryptic error message because secure boot was turned off.

mjg59 12y ago
> I triple checked on two computers to be sure. Nada. Maybe go fuck yourself. For the Thinkpad I have here: 1) Enter firmware 2) Go to security 3) Select "Reset to Setup Mode" 4) Enrol keys using UEFI SetVariable() interface What models are you talking about? Shipping with no mechanism to do this is in violation of the Windows hardware certification requirements, and vendors falsely claiming compliance are both falsely advertising and breaching their contracts with Microsoft, so it's a pretty big deal for them to do so. > And I'd say you should stick to low level coding and not comment on the economics of competition and the contents of the US vs. Microsoft dockets... unless you are an antitrust lawyer, an economist AND a kernel hacker? You are an antitrust lawyer and an economist? > So a single switch is monstrously expensive unless Google mandates it, in which case it's not a problem. In the Windows world, if Microsoft's demands become too extreme you can ignore Microsoft, undercut your competitors and ship Windows anyway. In the ChromeOS world, you can't. > Funny. I tried installing (the latest release of) Ubuntu the other day and got nothing but a cryptic error message because secure boot was turned off. If Secure Boot is turned off then your inability to boot Ubuntu has nothing to do with Secure Boot.

mjg59 12y ago

> I triple checked on two computers to be sure. Nada. Maybe go fuck yourself. For the Thinkpad I have here: 1) Enter firmware 2) Go to security 3) Select "Reset to Setup Mode" 4) Enrol keys using UEFI SetVariable() interface What models are you talking about? Shipping with no mechanism to do this is in violation of the Windows hardware certification requirements, and vendors falsely claiming compliance are both falsely advertising and breaching their contracts with Microsoft, so it's a pretty big deal for them to do so. > And I'd say you should stick to low level coding and not comment on the economics of competition and the contents of the US vs. Microsoft dockets... unless you are an antitrust lawyer, an economist AND a kernel hacker? You are an antitrust lawyer and an economist? > So a single switch is monstrously expensive unless Google mandates it, in which case it's not a problem. In the Windows world, if Microsoft's demands become too extreme you can ignore Microsoft, undercut your competitors and ship Windows anyway. In the ChromeOS world, you can't. > Funny. I tried installing (the latest release of) Ubuntu the other day and got nothing but a cryptic error message because secure boot was turned off. If Secure Boot is turned off then your inability to boot Ubuntu has nothing to do with Secure Boot.