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You don't need to defend the midwest. Most people outside of San Francisco couldn't give less of a shit about San Francisco. The three primary smells of SF are

You don't need to defend the midwest. Most people outside of San Francisco couldn't give less of a shit about San Francisco. The three primary smells of SF are urine, human feces, and weed. I think Seattle folk are becoming increasingly hostile to the idea of moving down there. Some dream of it of course, but I think they're decreasing in number. Google and Facebook are expanding up here because there's so much talent that simply won't move to the bay. And SpaceX is starting a 1000 person studio soon. Nashville is a good city. I hope it's tech scene continue to grow. Most west coast folk wouldn't dream of living in country music capital of the world. That's might even be a good thing. More opportunities for new people. Lots of great places to live in the world. SF wouldn't even be in my top 100. So at least take refuge in knowing you're far from alone.

xxpor 12y ago
>Google and Facebook are expanding up here because there's so much talent that simply won't move to the bay I think a lot of that is driven by Amazon, because they built the downtown offices. People get used to working downtown and they want to stay there. Easy commutes from Capitol Hill/QA/etc. Now Facebook is expanding downtown, Google Fremont is growing, etc. because people refuse to commute to the east side. As opposed to the Valley, where your options are (except for Twitter and mostly startups) 1) Work in the valley, and live the suburbs. Yuck. Pay a billion dollars for the privlege. 2) Work in the valley and live in SF. Pay a billion^2 dollars for the privilege, and have a shit commute (sitting on a private bus is still sitting on a bus). No thanks. That being said, I went to Case Western and would move back to Cleveland in a heartbeat, if the salaries and opportunities were even remotely comparable to Seattle.
- freyr 12y ago
  > and would move back to Cleveland in a heartbeat, if the salaries and opportunities were even remotely comparable to Seattle. At some point you might decide you don't need to jump from company to company, or from job to job. You'll realize you really only need a good job at a decent company. And there's a good chance that such a job exists in Cleveland, or Dallas, or Charlotte, or wherever. At times, you might feel like you're missing out on the action. But then you'll look at your bank account or your house or your kid's college fund, which hasn't been being sucked dry by a ridiculously inflated cost-of-living, and you'll come back to your senses.
wtbob 12y ago
> Most people outside of San Francisco couldn't give less of a shit about San Francisco. The three primary smells of SF are urine, human feces, and weed. I remember the first time I visited San Francisco: I was so excited to visit a city I'd heard so much about. There's a bar there which is supposed to be even better than one of my local ones; I arrived and discovered that a) it sold no food; b) the prices were double; c) the selection was worse; d) it stank of urine. That entire city was a colossal let-down. I was so glad to return home. Maybe I should have had lower expectations?

xxpor 12y ago

>Google and Facebook are expanding up here because there's so much talent that simply won't move to the bay I think a lot of that is driven by Amazon, because they built the downtown offices. People get used to working downtown and they want to stay there. Easy commutes from Capitol Hill/QA/etc. Now Facebook is expanding downtown, Google Fremont is growing, etc. because people refuse to commute to the east side. As opposed to the Valley, where your options are (except for Twitter and mostly startups) 1) Work in the valley, and live the suburbs. Yuck. Pay a billion dollars for the privlege. 2) Work in the valley and live in SF. Pay a billion^2 dollars for the privilege, and have a shit commute (sitting on a private bus is still sitting on a bus). No thanks. That being said, I went to Case Western and would move back to Cleveland in a heartbeat, if the salaries and opportunities were even remotely comparable to Seattle.

freyr 12y ago
> and would move back to Cleveland in a heartbeat, if the salaries and opportunities were even remotely comparable to Seattle. At some point you might decide you don't need to jump from company to company, or from job to job. You'll realize you really only need a good job at a decent company. And there's a good chance that such a job exists in Cleveland, or Dallas, or Charlotte, or wherever. At times, you might feel like you're missing out on the action. But then you'll look at your bank account or your house or your kid's college fund, which hasn't been being sucked dry by a ridiculously inflated cost-of-living, and you'll come back to your senses.

wtbob 12y ago

> Most people outside of San Francisco couldn't give less of a shit about San Francisco. The three primary smells of SF are urine, human feces, and weed. I remember the first time I visited San Francisco: I was so excited to visit a city I'd heard so much about. There's a bar there which is supposed to be even better than one of my local ones; I arrived and discovered that a) it sold no food; b) the prices were double; c) the selection was worse; d) it stank of urine. That entire city was a colossal let-down. I was so glad to return home. Maybe I should have had lower expectations?