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> he frequently came out with scary-harsh messages that had little relation to reality, like being worried about who he asked to help carry heavy equipment Tha
by brandonmenc 12y ago
> he frequently came out with scary-harsh messages that had little relation to reality, like being worried about who he asked to help carry heavy equipment
That's "scary-harsh?"
Fact: women are not as strong as men. It's not even a question.
Go look at weightlifting records, if you don't believe that. Even elite, lifelong female powerlifters max out at weights that a man in the same weight class can throw up for reps with just a moderate amount of training.
Disclaimer: I believe everything else cited in the article is absolutely horrible, but this particular thing is not.
- Thriptic 12y ago> Even elite, lifelong female powerlifters max out at weights that a man in the same weight class can throw up for reps with just a moderate amount of training. That's not a true statement. A quick look at the IPF female world records shows an unequipped lifter putting up a 230 kg squat at 107 kg body weight. That would be considered almost an elite lift for a male of the same weight class, which requires far more than "moderate" training. Regardless, the main point of your post holds true.
- donw 12y agoMassively offtopic, but powerlifting records (http://www.usapowerlifting.com/records/national-championship-records/ http://www.usapowerlifting.com/records/national-championship...) support that yes, elite female powerlifters top out at what would be considered a rep weight for a male lifter in the same weight class.
- Thriptic 12y agoI'm not arguing that males aren't stronger than females in the same weight class. I'm saying an untrained male can't receive moderate training and suddenly massively out lift elite female powerlifers in the same weight class.
- donw 12y agoOh, certainly. To address the original post, though, the numbers that the top-tier gals are putting up are in the same league as male lifters with 2-3 years of training, which sounds fairly moderate to me.
- brandonmenc 12y agoI'm not talking about world records - I'm talking about typical numbers that get put up in competition.
- Thriptic 12y agoYea it all depends on how you define moderate amount of training. Elite qualification for females would probably be achievable for the average untrained male in the same weight class in a few years of focused training. http://www.powerliftingwatch.com/node/1793 http://www.powerliftingwatch.com/node/1793
- bluehat 12y agoNo I meant that I wouldn't have given two shits who he asked to carry heavy stuff. I'll edit it to make that more clear.
- brandonmenc 12y agoThat makes more sense. I can see how announcing every time, "I need a man!" would be grating, instead of just asking a guy to move the stuff without the fanfare.
- bluehat 12y agoNah, it was nothing like that. I fleshed out the paragraph a little. -- Listening to him quote the sexual harassment seminars was the saddest bit: on one hand he was really trying, but on the other, everything he was quoting made absolutely no sense. I frequently found him putting so much effort in where it didn’t really matter, like obsessively counting how many times he had asked a man vs a woman to carry heavy equipment. He always seemed overloaded with things to remember about “not being sexist” and afraid to get something wrong. It seemed almost heartless to risk getting him in trouble.
- brandonmenc 12y agoUgh, how awkward.
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