> "there is no legitimate way to extract $X from users who don't have $X to spend." so.....why does that make what amounts to stealing $X from the users ok? k

> "there is no legitimate way to extract $X from users who don't have $X to spend." so.....why does that make what amounts to stealing $X from the users ok? kudos to companies cutting their losses and walking away. hats off to those who can innovate and actually get users to pay $X legitimately. i have a real problem with people thinking they can force a user into something he doesn't want. if he's not going to pay, then either acknowledge that you're giving him a free lunch or walk away.