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Cool, but why? ( And shoulden't we invent digital Baroque art before inventing digital postmodernism?)
by yk 12y ago
Cool, but why?
( And shoulden't we invent digital Baroque art before inventing digital postmodernism?)
- psykovsky 12y agoBecause.
- javajosh 12y agoNormally this kind of comment gets downvoted, and rightly so. But in this context, it's perfect. Well done.
- psykovsky 12y agoI wouldn't mind the downvotes at all. But I really thought it was the only acceptable answer for the why. :)
- threatofrain 12y agoThe reason why "Laconian wit" is normally frowned upon is because it's actually almost disruptively lazy. In the event that almost everyone agrees with you, then that's okay. But should anyone disagree with you, now they're going to have to do the heavy lifting for YOUR side. That disrupts the willingness someone has to even converse with you, and if someone retorts with similarly Laconian wit, you can see the conversation breaks down really fast, because nobody is willing to put in the extra effort to flesh out someone else's opinion when there's no reciprocity or show of effort.
- cheatsheet 12y agoBoth exist. Postmodernism is a lot more relevant to the digital age than anything, imo. It emphasizes pointing out ways of thinking and doing, which I think is especially relevant when we are actually automating most of our ways of thinking and doing. I know it gets a bad rap because of the ridiculous examples, but the real point of it engages the viewer into a serious kind of contemplation concerning the massive infrastructure that exists and how that shapes our culture, thoughts, understanding, action.. We have the expectation that the generations to come will accept this infrastructure and what it says about how the human mind functions. But much of it is founded on belief systems of how thought and action operate in the real world. Most of these systems are baseless, the idea of a base obfuscated only by the sheer complexity involved in understanding each layer.
- matt4077 12y agoPlease don't tell me Geocities was our Renaissance.
- cheatsheet 12y agoI really look forward to when we, as academics, historically document and seriously examine the various phases of the internet, from a variety of alternative perspectives. It's interesting while it's being built, but it's also interesting to look back and reflect on the bigger picture, outside of the buzzwords and technical terminology used to pull the creation through, and make it actualized. I look forward when critics and theorists start thinking about the goal of the internet from a social perspective, a collective cultural subconscious directive. I look forward to all the kinds of art history theoretical methodology used to explain the significance of Picasso or Manet in their respective time periods, to use the same kinds of methodology to reason about the relation between the internet and everything that is not the internet. It's interesting when some information gets washed away and other information is retained through time, and it isn't always the stuff that is indexed that is retained. The idea that art critics can even agree to call the same collection of works "cubism" or "impressionism" fascinates me, and I look forward to the same kinds of invented vocabularies being used to describe various processes, movements, and patterns throughout internet culture (way beyond studying memes and tropes - there are so many layers to the collective psyche of the internet, it is dumbfounding). I don't know what geocities represents. I'd have to define it's 'kind' and compare and contrast it to other 'kinds' throughout time. I know this was meant to be a humorous comment, but I love to weave theories, and some of them even turn out to be descriptive of the nature of things.
- ssalazar 12y agoJust check out any of the MIDI music forums for some sweet digital baroque art.
- egypturnash 12y agoAAA games: where someone is paid to do nothing but design the details on imaginary Dwarven armor for an entire year. If that ain't baroque I don't know what is.