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Maybe the experiences discussed by women in this thread[1] will help you understand why this is actually a reasonable stance to take. EDIT: Here's a good eluci

Maybe the experiences discussed by women in this thread[1] will help you understand why this is actually a reasonable stance to take. EDIT: Here's a good elucidatory comment[2]. And another thread of stories[3]. And another[4]. If you react with venom to statements like the one quoted, then you are not listening. [1]: http://www.metafilter.com/85667/Hi-Whatcha-reading#2777344 http://www.metafilter.com/85667/Hi-Whatcha-reading#2777344 [2]: http://www.reddit.com/r/offmychest/comments/15kix9/im_tired_of_young_women/c7nd1m8 http://www.reddit.com/r/offmychest/comments/15kix9/im_tired_... [3]: http://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/2ij22p/what_was_the_scariest_instance_of_street/ http://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/2ij22p/what_was_th... [4]: http://www.metafilter.com/143994/10-hours-of-street-harrassment-edited-down-to-two-minutes http://www.metafilter.com/143994/10-hours-of-street-harrassm...

Dewie 12y ago
No one seems to like things like racial profiling. But sexual profiling is apparently A-ok. EDIT: So many downvotes, such lack of rebuttals.
- ForHackernews 12y ago
  Are you suggesting that individual women being (justifiably) suspicious of strange men hassling them on the street is analogous to police officers and other agents of the state disproportionately arresting racial minorities? What would make you think is a sensible or illuminating analogy? As with your other comment in this thread comparing feminists with Saudi Muftis, this is a shallow and superficial analogy that obscures more than it reveals.
  - Dewie 12y ago
    My bad. I thought "racial profiling" was more generic and not about law enforcement in particular. I meant "racial profiling" as in all everyday racism that is motivated by other people being suspicious, cautious and actively hostile towards people because they associate them with, or have bad experiences with, other people of the same race. If you want to talk about "justifiable", then we can also talk about how "racial profiling" can be very pragmatic and not just blind racism. Maybe being extra suspicious around a black man keeps you from being mugged? Maybe you have lived in a bad part of town and "racial profiling" has helped you keep out of trouble? And although it might be pragmatic, it's a disturbing practice in itself, and it's not really fair either. It's not simply "justifiable", end of story. It has wider implications. But people like you have too much tunnel vision to see the similarity, and the common hypocrisy around this subject. "Schrodinger's rapist"? Nice hate speech, if I'm allowed to use that as a more generic term.
    - archagon 12y ago
      Well, good luck explaining your perspective to women, I guess.
      - Dewie 12y ago
        Whether or not an argument is popular or not[1] has no bearing on whether it is correct or well-informed. But it's cool of you to dismiss my arguments by implying that I would be a social pariah. [1] I'm guessing you are implying that my opinion would be unpopular among women.

Dewie 12y ago

No one seems to like things like racial profiling. But sexual profiling is apparently A-ok. EDIT: So many downvotes, such lack of rebuttals.

ForHackernews 12y ago
Are you suggesting that individual women being (justifiably) suspicious of strange men hassling them on the street is analogous to police officers and other agents of the state disproportionately arresting racial minorities? What would make you think is a sensible or illuminating analogy? As with your other comment in this thread comparing feminists with Saudi Muftis, this is a shallow and superficial analogy that obscures more than it reveals.
- Dewie 12y ago
  My bad. I thought "racial profiling" was more generic and not about law enforcement in particular. I meant "racial profiling" as in all everyday racism that is motivated by other people being suspicious, cautious and actively hostile towards people because they associate them with, or have bad experiences with, other people of the same race. If you want to talk about "justifiable", then we can also talk about how "racial profiling" can be very pragmatic and not just blind racism. Maybe being extra suspicious around a black man keeps you from being mugged? Maybe you have lived in a bad part of town and "racial profiling" has helped you keep out of trouble? And although it might be pragmatic, it's a disturbing practice in itself, and it's not really fair either. It's not simply "justifiable", end of story. It has wider implications. But people like you have too much tunnel vision to see the similarity, and the common hypocrisy around this subject. "Schrodinger's rapist"? Nice hate speech, if I'm allowed to use that as a more generic term.
  - archagon 12y ago
    Well, good luck explaining your perspective to women, I guess.
    - Dewie 12y ago
      Whether or not an argument is popular or not[1] has no bearing on whether it is correct or well-informed. But it's cool of you to dismiss my arguments by implying that I would be a social pariah. [1] I'm guessing you are implying that my opinion would be unpopular among women.